Hackers attack epileptic forum and make sufferers convulse

By Mark O’Neill

epilepticbrain.jpgIn what is being described as the first attack over the internet to cause immediate direct physical harm, hackers have caused an unknown number of epileptic sufferers to suffer seizures by hacking into an epileptic support forum and leaving flashing animation screens.

The flashing screens, made with javascript code, would then adversely affect those suffering from pattern-sensitive epilepsy or photo-sensitive epilepsy (I also suffer from a strain of it). This means that if the eyes are exposed to rapidly flashing lights for a prolonged period of time, the brain reacts violently and sends the body into a seizure. The risk becomes even higher if the flashing lights are in a darkened room such as a nightclub or a cinema (you may have seen cinemas warning epileptics about strobe lighting in movies)

Circumstantial evidence has responsibility pointing to a group that seemingly has a beef with scientologists (Edit: After further investigation, we believe that the culprits were not who everybody though to be responsible at first… everybody points their finger at everybody else, and it’s not our position to determine who did it. Please note that WIRED, which usually is a reliable news source, reported the story first). But it’s one thing to have an argument with a religious cult. It’s quite another thing to target a group of people with a medical disability and provoke traumatic and terrible seizures in their head.

I am trying to be impartial about this but being a fellow epilepsy sufferer myself, I am shaking at the moment with deep anger. I am currently going round several other epilepsy support groups online that I am involved with to see if anything has been going on there as well.    Is this a co-ordinated attack or a one-off deal?    It’s essential to know.

Who in their right mind gets off on making people convulse uncontrollably? If they could just realize for a moment what a seizure actually involves and if they were to experience one themselves, they wouldn’t be so cavalier about inflicting that hurt on others.

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193 Responses to Hackers attack epileptic forum and make sufferers convulse

  1. An anonymous reader tips us to a story up at Wired reporting on what may be the first computer attack to inflict physical harm on victims. Last Saturday, griefers posted hundreds of bogus messages on the support forums of the nonprofit Epilepsy Foundation that used JavaScript and strobing GIFs to trigger migraines and seizures in users. For about 3% of the 50 million epileptics worldwide, flashing lights and colors can trigger seizures. "'I don't fall over and convulse, but it hurts,' says [an IT worker in Ohio]. 'I was on the phone when it happened, and I couldn't move and couldn't speak.' … Circumstantial evidence suggests the attack was the work of members of Anonymous, an informal collective of griefers best known for their recent war on the Church of Scientology. The first flurry of posts on the epilepsy forum referenced the site EBaumsWorld, which is much hated by Anonymous. And forum members claim they found a message board thread — since deleted — planning the attack at 7chan.org, a group stronghold."

    • Thread on 7chan started by COS, any Anonymous culprits are located at 711chan.org. Who knows if 4ailchan is involved, but any Anonymous that took part in the attack were using 711chan. In other words, The news know nothing about us, Anonymous is the only source of news on Anonymous.

    • No one here has explained why epileptics had anything to do with the feud between Scientology and Anonymous. What did these innocent people have to do with anything, and why were they targeted? THAT IS WHY WHOMEVER IS RESPONSIBLE DESERVES JAIL TIME!

    • For what it's worth, here is the offical posting on 7chan.org about this:

      ATTENTION: Newcomers from Wired, Digg, Engadget, Slashdot, etc. by OverlordXenu – 3/29/08 @ 7:46PM PDT#

      Hello, and welcome to our treehouse.

      I would just like to discuss this nasty business about a terrible raid on a forum for the poor people who suffer from epilepsy. What happened there was terrible, and we feel deeply sorry for those affected.

      Users of this site did not actually attack those individuals. The Church of Scientology posted numerous threads across many *chan sites, and then informed people that Anonymous had been attacking victims of epilepsy. They did this under their "fair game" policy, to ruin the public opinion of Anonymous, to lessen the effect of their lawful protests against their virulent organization.

      I must say, it is disgusting that the CoS is willing to drag innocent people down with them, in an attempt to save themselves. How could anyone be a willing participant in their terrible organization?

      Sadly, none of our staff were online at the time of the thread's posting, so we were unable to take it down.

      We are truly and deeply sorry for what happened to these innocent people,

      Thank you for your time spent reading this apology,

      The Administration and Staff of 7chan.org

      Feel free to email us at the above address or address us on our IRC server, and we will be happy to address any of your concerns regarding this terrible incident.

    • It was not Anonymous smart-ones. I've seen several articles (probably all written as copies of one original) saying "Circumstantial evidence blah blah Anonymous." It was not Anonymous; the idiotic reporter who wrote that did so to get this sort of reaction out of people (kinda sad it's working). People with epilepsy have nothing to do with Anonymous vs Scientology, and this attack had nothing to do with it either. The people who did it have a gross site with a background of a dead person, you'll have to check other threads for their url, b/c I can't remember it and would feel bad for telling you even if I did.

  2. An anonymous reader tips us to a story up at Wired reporting on what may be the first computer attack to inflict physical harm on victims. Last Saturday, griefers posted hundreds of bogus messages on the support forums of the nonprofit Epilepsy Foundation that used JavaScript and strobing GIFs to trigger migraines and seizures in users. For about 3% of the 50 million epileptics worldwide, flashing lights and colors can trigger seizures. “‘I don’t fall over and convulse, but it hurts,’ says [an IT worker in Ohio]. ‘I was on the phone when it happened, and I couldn’t move and couldn’t speak.’ … Circumstantial evidence suggests the attack was the work of members of Anonymous, an informal collective of griefers best known for their recent war on the Church of Scientology. The first flurry of posts on the epilepsy forum referenced the site EBaumsWorld, which is much hated by Anonymous. And forum members claim they found a message board thread — since deleted — planning the attack at 7chan.org, a group stronghold.”

    • Thread on 7chan started by COS, any Anonymous culprits are located at 711chan.org. Who knows if 4ailchan is involved, but any Anonymous that took part in the attack were using 711chan. In other words, The news know nothing about us, Anonymous is the only source of news on Anonymous.

    • No one here has explained why epileptics had anything to do with the feud between Scientology and Anonymous. What did these innocent people have to do with anything, and why were they targeted? THAT IS WHY WHOMEVER IS RESPONSIBLE DESERVES JAIL TIME!

    • For what it’s worth, here is the offical posting on 7chan.org about this:

      ATTENTION: Newcomers from Wired, Digg, Engadget, Slashdot, etc. by OverlordXenu – 3/29/08 @ 7:46PM PDT#

      Hello, and welcome to our treehouse.

      I would just like to discuss this nasty business about a terrible raid on a forum for the poor people who suffer from epilepsy. What happened there was terrible, and we feel deeply sorry for those affected.

      Users of this site did not actually attack those individuals. The Church of Scientology posted numerous threads across many *chan sites, and then informed people that Anonymous had been attacking victims of epilepsy. They did this under their “fair game” policy, to ruin the public opinion of Anonymous, to lessen the effect of their lawful protests against their virulent organization.

      I must say, it is disgusting that the CoS is willing to drag innocent people down with them, in an attempt to save themselves. How could anyone be a willing participant in their terrible organization?

      Sadly, none of our staff were online at the time of the thread’s posting, so we were unable to take it down.

      We are truly and deeply sorry for what happened to these innocent people,
      Thank you for your time spent reading this apology,
      The Administration and Staff of 7chan.org

      Feel free to email us at the above address or address us on our IRC server, and we will be happy to address any of your concerns regarding this terrible incident.

    • For what it’s worth, here is the offical posting on 7chan.org about this:

      ATTENTION: Newcomers from Wired, Digg, Engadget, Slashdot, etc. by OverlordXenu – 3/29/08 @ 7:46PM PDT#

      Hello, and welcome to our treehouse.

      I would just like to discuss this nasty business about a terrible raid on a forum for the poor people who suffer from epilepsy. What happened there was terrible, and we feel deeply sorry for those affected.

      Users of this site did not actually attack those individuals. The Church of Scientology posted numerous threads across many *chan sites, and then informed people that Anonymous had been attacking victims of epilepsy. They did this under their “fair game” policy, to ruin the public opinion of Anonymous, to lessen the effect of their lawful protests against their virulent organization.

      I must say, it is disgusting that the CoS is willing to drag innocent people down with them, in an attempt to save themselves. How could anyone be a willing participant in their terrible organization?

      Sadly, none of our staff were online at the time of the thread’s posting, so we were unable to take it down.

      We are truly and deeply sorry for what happened to these innocent people,
      Thank you for your time spent reading this apology,
      The Administration and Staff of 7chan.org

      Feel free to email us at the above address or address us on our IRC server, and we will be happy to address any of your concerns regarding this terrible incident.

    • It was not Anonymous smart-ones. I’ve seen several articles (probably all written as copies of one original) saying “Circumstantial evidence blah blah Anonymous.” It was not Anonymous; the idiotic reporter who wrote that did so to get this sort of reaction out of people (kinda sad it’s working). People with epilepsy have nothing to do with Anonymous vs Scientology, and this attack had nothing to do with it either. The people who did it have a gross site with a background of a dead person, you’ll have to check other threads for their url, b/c I can’t remember it and would feel bad for telling you even if I did.

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    • If you really do represent the group suspected of this attack, you're going to have to do better than "I suspect that this may be a false flag operation".

      • Not really. No one has anything to prove to anyone else. Anonymous is a collective of several thousand people with no connection to each other than a shared group of sites they visit; if five basement-dwelling thirteen-year-olds decide to act stupid then you can't point a finger at all anons. That'd be like condemning the federal government for some 35-year-old lunatic mailman going postal. Either way, though, if you were well-informed you'd know that it's not like it would be out of the question for Scientology. But, as I already said, it doesn't make much of a difference either way.

        • +1 Fen.

          However, I doubt the guys come from 7chan (even if a good lot of *channers roam on several sites). For what can be found on 7chan's /b/, looks like 711ch, and for what can be seen there…Well, looks like them (on /lulz/)

          Yeah, that was a stupid stuff, but meh, Anonymous is anonymous. IF it was Anon, tho. Could have been COS too, and it doesnt really correspond to the classic lulz. Bad stuff, but if i understood correctly, at least nobody suffered anything "serious", correct me if I'm wrong (I don't say seizure is funny stuff, but no death/serious wounds/etc.)

        • Well i can safely say if any Anonymous were behind this it was at 711chan. Being a regular user of 7chan i can attest to the fact that any thread originating from there was not gathering any Anonymous for the attack. 7chan is generally a bunch of porn loving lazy assholes. Not the kind of LULZ LETS TORMENT PEOPLE IN THE NAME OF ANON that you find at 711chan. It's also been proven a few of the IPs were traced through proxies who have relinquished information that a member of the COS has been involved. In any case, COS and 711chan would be the most likely suspects. COS because they have all Anonymous on a hit list, and 711chan because they're all fucking dumb. Anyway, most of Anonymous attacks in retaliation A la the scientology raids. A few branches of anon are basically "Chaotic Evil" apart from the general "Chaotic Neutral" Anonymnous. The mnain difference being the way they attack. Normal anon in retaliation, when an attack is deserved. Evil Anon whenever they please, because they truly get lulz from any form of torment.

          In any case, 4chan nor 7chan seem to be involved, yet everyone always thinks Anonymous is so collected everyone is involved in everything. Such is not the case.

    • If you really do represent the group suspected of this attack, you’re going to have to do better than “I suspect that this may be a false flag operation”.

      • Not really. No one has anything to prove to anyone else. Anonymous is a collective of several thousand people with no connection to each other than a shared group of sites they visit; if five basement-dwelling thirteen-year-olds decide to act stupid then you can’t point a finger at all anons. That’d be like condemning the federal government for some 35-year-old lunatic mailman going postal. Either way, though, if you were well-informed you’d know that it’s not like it would be out of the question for Scientology. But, as I already said, it doesn’t make much of a difference either way.

        • +1 Fen.

          However, I doubt the guys come from 7chan (even if a good lot of *channers roam on several sites). For what can be found on 7chan’s /b/, looks like 711ch, and for what can be seen there…Well, looks like them (on /lulz/)

          Yeah, that was a stupid stuff, but meh, Anonymous is anonymous. IF it was Anon, tho. Could have been COS too, and it doesnt really correspond to the classic lulz. Bad stuff, but if i understood correctly, at least nobody suffered anything “serious”, correct me if I’m wrong (I don’t say seizure is funny stuff, but no death/serious wounds/etc.)

        • Well i can safely say if any Anonymous were behind this it was at 711chan. Being a regular user of 7chan i can attest to the fact that any thread originating from there was not gathering any Anonymous for the attack. 7chan is generally a bunch of porn loving lazy assholes. Not the kind of LULZ LETS TORMENT PEOPLE IN THE NAME OF ANON that you find at 711chan. It’s also been proven a few of the IPs were traced through proxies who have relinquished information that a member of the COS has been involved. In any case, COS and 711chan would be the most likely suspects. COS because they have all Anonymous on a hit list, and 711chan because they’re all fucking dumb. Anyway, most of Anonymous attacks in retaliation A la the scientology raids. A few branches of anon are basically “Chaotic Evil” apart from the general “Chaotic Neutral” Anonymnous. The mnain difference being the way they attack. Normal anon in retaliation, when an attack is deserved. Evil Anon whenever they please, because they truly get lulz from any form of torment.

          In any case, 4chan nor 7chan seem to be involved, yet everyone always thinks Anonymous is so collected everyone is involved in everything. Such is not the case.

  4. Messing with a medical support forum and leaving something that could actually cause harm to someone is completely out of order. I know we all don't get along and some people don't like other people. But inflicting pain on innocent people is compeltely out of order. Totally not cool and about as far away from funny as you can get.

  5. Messing with a medical support forum and leaving something that could actually cause harm to someone is completely out of order. I know we all don’t get along and some people don’t like other people. But inflicting pain on innocent people is compeltely out of order. Totally not cool and about as far away from funny as you can get.

  6. Obviously the sentiments listed above about the attack itself and the result cannot be argued against, it's pretty horrendous and the people who did it must equally horrendous humans. But, this could just have easily been say perpetrated by Scientology and pinned on Anonymous in a smear attack.

    So condemn the attack certainly but wait till it becomes clear who did it.

    • You make a good point. God knows Scientology has done plenty else and tried to pin it on Anonymous.

  7. Obviously the sentiments listed above about the attack itself and the result cannot be argued against, it’s pretty horrendous and the people who did it must equally horrendous humans. But, this could just have easily been say perpetrated by Scientology and pinned on Anonymous in a smear attack.

    So condemn the attack certainly but wait till it becomes clear who did it.

    • You make a good point. God knows Scientology has done plenty else and tried to pin it on Anonymous.

  8. And we are to believe the epileptic idiot sat there staring at the image for the requisite prolonged period of time that would cause them to convulse? this is just spam! retards believe everything they read now days.

    • You obviously don't know a thing about epilepsy… I'm sure Mark will have a thing or two to say about this…

    • epileptic idiot? I think you're the idiot. A seizure can be triggered INSTANTLY. They don't have to sit there for a "prolonged period of time". One flash and they are on the floor. I personally can have a seizure after walking into a nightclub after 30 seconds. That's why I haven't been into one for over 15 years. That's why when I go to the cinema, I have to sit next to the door and leave if I feel a seizure coming on.

    • I think the "retard" in question is the one that should know that seizures are almost instantaneous. I was diagnosed five years ago with epilepsy…and some how, I think, even if I wasn't diagnosed, I would have the balls to do some research instead of wandering ignorantly, insulting a condition's parameters of which you do not understand.

  9. And we are to believe the epileptic idiot sat there staring at the image for the requisite prolonged period of time that would cause them to convulse? this is just spam! retards believe everything they read now days.

    • You obviously don’t know a thing about epilepsy… I’m sure Mark will have a thing or two to say about this…

    • You obviously don’t know a thing about epilepsy… I’m sure Mark will have a thing or two to say about this…

    • epileptic idiot? I think you’re the idiot. A seizure can be triggered INSTANTLY. They don’t have to sit there for a “prolonged period of time”. One flash and they are on the floor. I personally can have a seizure after walking into a nightclub after 30 seconds. That’s why I haven’t been into one for over 15 years. That’s why when I go to the cinema, I have to sit next to the door and leave if I feel a seizure coming on.

    • I think the “retard” in question is the one that should know that seizures are almost instantaneous. I was diagnosed five years ago with epilepsy…and some how, I think, even if I wasn’t diagnosed, I would have the balls to do some research instead of wandering ignorantly, insulting a condition’s parameters of which you do not understand.

  10. I highly doubt this was done for the lulz. Anon knows who their target is, and it is definitely not people with epilepsy.

  11. I highly doubt this was done for the lulz. Anon knows who their target is, and it is definitely not people with epilepsy.

  12. It was either 7chan or 4chan that did it. I don't recall which. I was there on /b/ when they called for the attack. It absolutely disgusted me.

    • I was on FOURCHON too when they called for /b/lackup, I didn't participate either because that wasn't lulz

    • like hell it was us i hang on both /b/ sites and no one called for anything like this as much as we do some stupid sH!t we don't hurt people for fun get over yourself retard

  13. It was either 7chan or 4chan that did it. I don’t recall which. I was there on /b/ when they called for the attack. It absolutely disgusted me.

    • I was on FOURCHON too when they called for /b/lackup, I didn’t participate either because that wasn’t lulz

    • like hell it was us i hang on both /b/ sites and no one called for anything like this as much as we do some stupid sH!t we don’t hurt people for fun get over yourself retard

  14. I am an epileptic and this type of thing is frightening because of how vulnerable we are. For those who ask why an epileptic would stare at something like that for a long period of time, think about this. It doesn't take long to trigger a seizure. By the time someone realizes what they're seeing, they may already be triggered and disoriented. Sometimes if I have a seizure I completely freeze up, making closing down the window very difficult. Anyway, my point is it doesn't take long to trigger a seizure and by the time a seizure is triggered it is too late to close down the window and stop looking at it. That is all.

  15. I am an epileptic and this type of thing is frightening because of how vulnerable we are. For those who ask why an epileptic would stare at something like that for a long period of time, think about this. It doesn’t take long to trigger a seizure. By the time someone realizes what they’re seeing, they may already be triggered and disoriented. Sometimes if I have a seizure I completely freeze up, making closing down the window very difficult. Anyway, my point is it doesn’t take long to trigger a seizure and by the time a seizure is triggered it is too late to close down the window and stop looking at it. That is all.

  16. …whoever did this deserves jail time.

    Oh, and anonomous is trying to take down text based games (but not of the MUD type, a passive multiplayer text game)

      • who says it's not illegal? Are you a lawyer? This could be construed as assault…what about hacking into a computer? Isn't that a crime? Maybe it doesn't warrant jail time but it's definately something that can be taken to court. A case can definately be made for "assault against a person"

  17. …whoever did this deserves jail time.

    Oh, and anonomous is trying to take down text based games (but not of the MUD type, a passive multiplayer text game)

      • who says it’s not illegal? Are you a lawyer? This could be construed as assault…what about hacking into a computer? Isn’t that a crime? Maybe it doesn’t warrant jail time but it’s definately something that can be taken to court. A case can definately be made for “assault against a person”

  18. The whole argument is specious, the original "event" is not supported with any evidence whatsoever. It is, as far as fact goes "a hysteria on the boil" in this kitchen of a blog. Thumbs down to rumour-mongers!

    • the "event" happened – period. I'm sure the people who had seizures don't regard it as "hysteria on the boil".

      Are you saying this is something that shouldn't be discussed or brought to the public attention? Are you accusing Wired magazine (whom I linked to) of printing false information?

  19. The whole argument is specious, the original “event” is not supported with any evidence whatsoever. It is, as far as fact goes “a hysteria on the boil” in this kitchen of a blog. Thumbs down to rumour-mongers!

    • the “event” happened – period. I’m sure the people who had seizures don’t regard it as “hysteria on the boil”.

      Are you saying this is something that shouldn’t be discussed or brought to the public attention? Are you accusing Wired magazine (whom I linked to) of printing false information?

  20. A solution to this might be to release a program that restricts fast changes between frames (maybe by low-pass filtering).

    There are plenty of situations where epileptics might have problems (flashing banner ads?), including ones where no one meant any harm, so why not solve the problem by using an application that blocks flashing?

    • It's called NoScript. It's a Firefox extension. Everyone who wants to prevent their browser from running arbitrary code (and that should be everyone) should be running Firefox with NoScript.

      Load it. Use it. Love it.

    • …a person that is thinking of how to prevent this in the future! We have identified a serious risk and instead of pointing fingers this individual is trying to solve the problem! Bravo! *applauds* Now we got any smart engineers out there that can take this and run with it?

  21. A solution to this might be to release a program that restricts fast changes between frames (maybe by low-pass filtering).

    There are plenty of situations where epileptics might have problems (flashing banner ads?), including ones where no one meant any harm, so why not solve the problem by using an application that blocks flashing?

    • It’s called NoScript. It’s a Firefox extension. Everyone who wants to prevent their browser from running arbitrary code (and that should be everyone) should be running Firefox with NoScript.

      Load it. Use it. Love it.

    • …a person that is thinking of how to prevent this in the future! We have identified a serious risk and instead of pointing fingers this individual is trying to solve the problem! Bravo! *applauds* Now we got any smart engineers out there that can take this and run with it?

  22. wow this makes me shake with anger as well, its probably just some assholes not a co-ordinated attack but that doesn't lessen the severity

  23. wow this makes me shake with anger as well, its probably just some assholes not a co-ordinated attack but that doesn’t lessen the severity

  24. wow this makes me shake with anger as well, its probably just some assholes not a co-ordinated attack but that doesn’t lessen the severity

  25. Anonymous has no spokesperson. He speaks for himself.

    Anyone claiming to speak for him is a liar and a scientologist, and will go to hell when they die.

  26. Anonymous has no spokesperson. He speaks for himself.

    Anyone claiming to speak for him is a liar and a scientologist, and will go to hell when they die.

  27. This is $cientologists on the chans stirring things up, implicating Anon and trying to discredit us, whilst probably doing the deed themselves. They have done worse; remember – any Anonymous member, indeed, our whole movement is fair game.

    To quote L. Ron Hubbard, "ENEMY — SP Order. Fair game. May be deprived of property or *injured by any means* by any Scientologist without any discipline of the Scientologist. May be tricked, sued or lied to or destroyed."

    • Then L. Ron Hubbard should be equated with Osama Bin Laden. Both of them endorse terrorism in the name of religion.

  28. This is $cientologists on the chans stirring things up, implicating Anon and trying to discredit us, whilst probably doing the deed themselves. They have done worse; remember – any Anonymous member, indeed, our whole movement is fair game.

    To quote L. Ron Hubbard, “ENEMY — SP Order. Fair game. May be deprived of property or *injured by any means* by any Scientologist without any discipline of the Scientologist. May be tricked, sued or lied to or destroyed.”

    • Then L. Ron Hubbard should be equated with Osama Bin Laden. Both of them endorse terrorism in the name of religion.

  29. I would just like to ask why the site wasn't shut down temporarily by an Admin IMMEDIATELY after one of them noticed? And hacking things such as this isn't that easy so why wasn't it better protected? I'd personally investigate the Mods and/or Admins, just in case.

  30. I would just like to ask why the site wasn’t shut down temporarily by an Admin IMMEDIATELY after one of them noticed? And hacking things such as this isn’t that easy so why wasn’t it better protected? I’d personally investigate the Mods and/or Admins, just in case.

  31. So if I stab you in the guts, you will be thankful I am exposing an exploitable weakness and not at all pissed? Because if you will, please reply w/address.

    • I’d rather be beaten up early in life and learn to carry later.

      The epileptics should have known this sort of thing would happen anyway…

  32. I don't know a heck of a lot about computer web-sites and it is pretty screwed up to do something like this. I believe that in the future some of those with epilepsy use firefox and shut out the java script as a precaution… the only problem I see with this is that the jerks will do whatever it takes, no matter who it hurts. Maybe a little shock therapy to the stem of their brain would give them the feel of a seizure, and if that doesn't work a good beating with a salt soaked leather whip(30-40 lashes might do the trick)

    I am blood thirsty only to someone who does harm and what they did was more than harmful, it could have killed someone

  33. I don’t know a heck of a lot about computer web-sites and it is pretty screwed up to do something like this. I believe that in the future some of those with epilepsy use firefox and shut out the java script as a precaution… the only problem I see with this is that the jerks will do whatever it takes, no matter who it hurts. Maybe a little shock therapy to the stem of their brain would give them the feel of a seizure, and if that doesn’t work a good beating with a salt soaked leather whip(30-40 lashes might do the trick)
    I am blood thirsty only to someone who does harm and what they did was more than harmful, it could have killed someone

  34. If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and walks like a duck, it very well could be something else. In the case of a starfish, a severed limb can be merely a flesh wound.

    Translation, I doubt it was anon. I have high confidence it was the CoS. And then there is the fact that the CoS has done worse than just simply cause someone left or tried to leave. I know that fact well. Just be glad no one was killed by the CoS this time…

  35. If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and walks like a duck, it very well could be something else. In the case of a starfish, a severed limb can be merely a flesh wound.

    Translation, I doubt it was anon. I have high confidence it was the CoS. And then there is the fact that the CoS has done worse than just simply cause someone left or tried to leave. I know that fact well. Just be glad no one was killed by the CoS this time…

  36. i would second suspicions of this being a false flag operation. there is no way to prove who this was; but one group has a history of crossing the line of causing physical harm; and another does not

    it should also be reiterated that there is no governing anything for *chan; and it is likely most channers are as apalled about this as the next person

  37. i would second suspicions of this being a false flag operation. there is no way to prove who this was; but one group has a history of crossing the line of causing physical harm; and another does not

    it should also be reiterated that there is no governing anything for *chan; and it is likely most channers are as apalled about this as the next person

  38. not funny in the slightest, these people clearly don't understand the dangers they could be causing, my best friend passed away last year from a condition known as SUDEP (Sudden Unexpected Death in Epilepsy), look it up, then when you decide to launch one of your 'childish' attacks and you personally harm someone i'd love to see the look on your face, great being anonymous aint it, guess you can hide your shame even from yourself, grow up, grow some balls and do something useful in your life, like maybe actually getting seriously involved in the political process. nah didnt think so, hide behind your keyboard and your 12 proxies.

  39. Oh come on. I had nothing to do with the attacks, and only learned of them after they happened, but I still think it's hilarious. It's fucking funny! Taking advantage of other peoples' weaknesses… it's just so… I don't know, it's a Hobbesian nightmare, and a direct challenge to the Leviathan. It's a terrifying application of human intellectual isolationism in the context of nature red in tooth and claw. It gets my situationalist sex juices flowing.

  40. Oh come on. I had nothing to do with the attacks, and only learned of them after they happened, but I still think it’s hilarious. It’s fucking funny! Taking advantage of other peoples’ weaknesses… it’s just so… I don’t know, it’s a Hobbesian nightmare, and a direct challenge to the Leviathan. It’s a terrifying application of human intellectual isolationism in the context of nature red in tooth and claw. It gets my situationalist sex juices flowing.

  41. being a fellow epilepsy sufferer myself, I am shaking at the moment with deep anger.

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

      • I find it interesting that all the commenters who leave cruel remarks don't have the balls to leave their real names here and they are hiding behind stupid names like "LOL DONGS" and "LOLWUT" and "Bob the cat". Not only are you stupid but you're also a coward.

        It's amazing how much of a bully someone can be when they are hiding behind their keyboard in Mommy's basement. I wonder if you would be this brave in person? Or would you be hiding behind Mommy, sucking your thumb?

  42. being a fellow epilepsy sufferer myself, I am shaking at the moment with deep anger.

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

      • I find it interesting that all the commenters who leave cruel remarks don’t have the balls to leave their real names here and they are hiding behind stupid names like “LOL DONGS” and “LOLWUT” and “Bob the cat”. Not only are you stupid but you’re also a coward.

        It’s amazing how much of a bully someone can be when they are hiding behind their keyboard in Mommy’s basement. I wonder if you would be this brave in person? Or would you be hiding behind Mommy, sucking your thumb?

  43. Anyone that thinks this sort of thing is funny obviously doesn't know how terrible seizures are. So before you start laughing about something you have no idea about maybe you should research the subject a little, and then think about if it was you this happened to. Would you laugh then?

  44. Anyone that thinks this sort of thing is funny obviously doesn’t know how terrible seizures are. So before you start laughing about something you have no idea about maybe you should research the subject a little, and then think about if it was you this happened to. Would you laugh then?

    • Well then I guess I must be blind. I have had epilepsy for 20 years, been through 100 jobs, must have had about 250-300 seizures, countless stays in hospitals and a fractured skull. So I guess I have a hard time finding the humour in a seizure.

      Give me a call the first time you or someone you care about has a massive seizure, falls down the stairs and fractures their skull and ends up in the hospital. I'll bring my camera and take a picture of you laughing your ass off.

    • I'm lost…how is this supposed to be funny? Harming other people? It's like handing someone a pipe bomb in a package and sticking around to watch it blow up! How on earth is that funny?

    • Well then I guess I must be blind. I have had epilepsy for 20 years, been through 100 jobs, must have had about 250-300 seizures, countless stays in hospitals and a fractured skull. So I guess I have a hard time finding the humour in a seizure.

      Give me a call the first time you or someone you care about has a massive seizure, falls down the stairs and fractures their skull and ends up in the hospital. I’ll bring my camera and take a picture of you laughing your ass off.

    • I’m lost…how is this supposed to be funny? Harming other people? It’s like handing someone a pipe bomb in a package and sticking around to watch it blow up! How on earth is that funny?

  45. Does defending these people give you your “lulz”? Cause if it does, you should be accused of being an accessory after the fact.

    P.S. I’m not a lawyer, just a human being with a conscience.

  46. To "mark o'neil" who the fuck has their computer next to stairs?

    -1 for the epileptics, they know (or should know) the dangers of the internet. You sign the waiver when you get on the internet.

    • I think that's beside the point.. What Mark wanted to say is that epilepsy can be dangerous, even beside your computer. I have a friend whose 8 year old daughter was playing with her PS3… she suddenly started having seizures, and smacked her head on a corder of a table. They had to go to the hospital for this.

      People suffering from epilepsy have to go on living… and accept that this will happen from time to time, but things like this are just not right.

      If you see someone disabled walking in the street with a pair of crutches, do you go ahead and smack him in the back? or kick his pair of crutches away? That's stupid right?

      Sure, this person can fall down anytime, for various reasons.. but who would actually force this upon them?

      This is the same thing.

  47. To “mark o’neil” who the fuck has their computer next to stairs?

    -1 for the epileptics, they know (or should know) the dangers of the internet. You sign the waiver when you get on the internet.

    • I think that’s beside the point.. What Mark wanted to say is that epilepsy can be dangerous, even beside your computer. I have a friend whose 8 year old daughter was playing with her PS3… she suddenly started having seizures, and smacked her head on a corder of a table. They had to go to the hospital for this.

      People suffering from epilepsy have to go on living… and accept that this will happen from time to time, but things like this are just not right.

      If you see someone disabled walking in the street with a pair of crutches, do you go ahead and smack him in the back? or kick his pair of crutches away? That’s stupid right?

      Sure, this person can fall down anytime, for various reasons.. but who would actually force this upon them?

      This is the same thing.

  48. not funny in the slightest, these people clearly don't understand the dangers they could be causing, my best friend passed away last year from a condition known as SUDEP (Sudden Unexpected Death in Epilepsy), look it up, then when you decide to launch one of your 'childish' attacks and you personally harm someone i'd love to see the look on your face, great being anonymous aint it, guess you can hide your shame even from yourself, grow up, grow some balls and do something useful in your life, like maybe actually getting seriously involved in the political process. nah didnt think so, hide behind your keyboard and your 12 proxies.

  49. Well, surely if this actually happened, it's a criminal issue, and the culprits will be traced and jailed?

    I mean, certainly it is possible to be untraceable (layered proxies, one of which deletes logs, for instance) but it is extremely likely that the majority of the culprits will have left traces.

    Talking of traces: I see no trace of any announcement on their forums. I think this is make-news.

    Honestly, if it happened, it was -no doubt- a CoS operation. Making all the GIFs and the Java stuff would have taken some time, and some interest, much more interest than was garnered on the chans.

    If it didn't happen, and it's looking more and more likely, this is just CoS making news for the masses.

  50. Well, surely if this actually happened, it’s a criminal issue, and the culprits will be traced and jailed?

    I mean, certainly it is possible to be untraceable (layered proxies, one of which deletes logs, for instance) but it is extremely likely that the majority of the culprits will have left traces.

    Talking of traces: I see no trace of any announcement on their forums. I think this is make-news.

    Honestly, if it happened, it was -no doubt- a CoS operation. Making all the GIFs and the Java stuff would have taken some time, and some interest, much more interest than was garnered on the chans.

    If it didn’t happen, and it’s looking more and more likely, this is just CoS making news for the masses.

  51. I don't see why people would find this funny. It's like slipping peanuts in an allergic person's food. People could end up in a hospital or worse.

    I dont know if it was Anonymous, the CoS or someone else but whoever did it is a complete jerk.

  52. I don’t see why people would find this funny. It’s like slipping peanuts in an allergic person’s food. People could end up in a hospital or worse.

    I dont know if it was Anonymous, the CoS or someone else but whoever did it is a complete jerk.

  53. I'm at an odd stand point at this issue. I do believe this is a horrible thing that some one could do, I don't believe it is an anonymous though. If anonymous attacks, it is in mass. If anything it is some little kid thinking disabilities are funny. In my opinion, this is not something done for lulz, because anon wouldn't hear or see the effects. Most things that are done within the *chans are things that can be done that anon can witness, such as confusing people on webcams, webchat, or rick rolling. But this, you can witness the flashing images on the site, but you can't see what results from it. If there was a live webcam of the posters, I would half-heartedly expect a anon.

    Also anon is a person and not a group. Just saying, you can't judge everyone by one.

  54. I’m at an odd stand point at this issue. I do believe this is a horrible thing that some one could do, I don’t believe it is an anonymous though. If anonymous attacks, it is in mass. If anything it is some little kid thinking disabilities are funny. In my opinion, this is not something done for lulz, because anon wouldn’t hear or see the effects. Most things that are done within the *chans are things that can be done that anon can witness, such as confusing people on webcams, webchat, or rick rolling. But this, you can witness the flashing images on the site, but you can’t see what results from it. If there was a live webcam of the posters, I would half-heartedly expect a anon.
    Also anon is a person and not a group. Just saying, you can’t judge everyone by one.

  55. I didn't see any threads about the attack, although it's very possible I could have missed them.

    What I do know is that this doesn't sound like Anon to me. If you look at raid targets in the past, they all pretty much deserved it.

    In any case, condemning the whole of Anon for the attack is not the right decision. And believe me – it isn't beneath the Scifags to try and frame us for this.

  56. I didn’t see any threads about the attack, although it’s very possible I could have missed them.

    What I do know is that this doesn’t sound like Anon to me. If you look at raid targets in the past, they all pretty much deserved it.

    In any case, condemning the whole of Anon for the attack is not the right decision. And believe me – it isn’t beneath the Scifags to try and frame us for this.

  57. Yeah, this was a Church of Scientology job. It'll be interesting to see what they resort to next as public opinion/tolerance of them sours even further.

  58. Yeah, this was a Church of Scientology job. It’ll be interesting to see what they resort to next as public opinion/tolerance of them sours even further.

  59. I doubt this was the Chan.

    Not their style. However, it fits the standard setup for Scientology. Hope they can track the sources

  60. I doubt this was the Chan.

    Not their style. However, it fits the standard setup for Scientology. Hope they can track the sources

  61. This isn't an isolated event – it isn't the first time the hooligans at 7chan /b/ instigated an attack on epilepsy forums. They do it periodically. I issued a press release ( http://www.pr.com/press-release/60959 ) after they attacked CWE ( http://www.coping-with-epilepsy.com/ ) last November. I have copies of the 7chan /b/ threads from both raids. This stupidity has nothing to do with CoS – it's just trolls and delinquents. 7chan admins bear responsibility IMO for allowing this to continue happening and protecting the perps by deleting the evidence and claiming innocence.

    • Bernard , I have replied to your pasted above "comment"on every single site I have visited right after you ,regarding these attacks .You have spam posted that exact comment everywhere ,and here is my reply,for the record.Someone is obviously paying you to discredit Anonymous , and I have ( for free ha ha ) just ruined all your good/bad work .Try research your own facts in future instead of taking directions from a "leader" .Downstat on thurdsay eh? You lose once again CoS .

      To everyone else here ,

      Bear in mind folks , CoS is Anti epilepsy medication by default.

      The CoS have stooped far lower than this before in framing their opponents .CoS actually is against Epilepsy medication as a practice .In fact they encourage sufferer of this condition s NOT to take their meds ,and treat themselves with vitamins instead , its called “purification rundown” and is a dangerous process carried out by unliscensed laymen using Dianetics instead of recommended professional help. Thats how Herbert Pfaff died. Google it.

      Who has more reason to attack an epilepsy site , a cult who dosn’tagree with epilepsy meds…or a random group of people on the internet , most of who claim to not have a clue as to why they are being blamed.

      Perhaps now people will see why these anti Scientology rallies are taking place.

      • Tara, as the admin of CWE, I have first hand experience in what went down both last November and just before Easter this year. They tried to hit CWE 3 times in the week leading up to the recent NSE and EFA forum attacks.

        I saved copies of the 7chan /b/ threads where the attacks were being instigated both times (ie. last November and the recent EFA strike – see http://www.vbseo.com/f106/refback-came-handy-last… ). Shall I post the transcripts?

        This attack had nothing to do with Anon or CoS. It's just 7chan /b/tards doing what they do (over and over again). 7chan admins should stop condoning this crap and protecting the instigators IMO.

        And you are welcome for me shining a light wherever I can on the subject. Cockroaches don't like the light, do they?

  62. Whoever did this is a genius. Being able to actually go though with it and make it work is amazing. However, I doubt it was CoS or even Anon as it doesn't really fit either MO. Seems like someone who thought it would be fun trying to gain support, found little, and did it anyway.

  63. Whoever did this is a genius. Being able to actually go though with it and make it work is amazing. However, I doubt it was CoS or even Anon as it doesn’t really fit either MO. Seems like someone who thought it would be fun trying to gain support, found little, and did it anyway.

  64. This attack was planned on the boards, I'll admit, but this had nothing to do with Anonymous. Can't speak for each individual, but as a joke, this failed epically and was a stupid thing to have done. If people are still trying to attack CoS, this stuff has to stop.

  65. This attack was planned on the boards, I’ll admit, but this had nothing to do with Anonymous. Can’t speak for each individual, but as a joke, this failed epically and was a stupid thing to have done. If people are still trying to attack CoS, this stuff has to stop.

  66. This isn't an isolated event – it isn't the first time the hooligans at 7chan /b/ instigated an attack on epilepsy forums. They do it periodically. I issued a press release ( http://www.pr.com/press-release/60959 ) after they attacked CWE ( http://www.coping-with-epilepsy.com/ ) last November. I have copies of the 7chan /b/ threads from both raids. This stupidity has nothing to do with CoS – it's just trolls and delinquents. 7chan admins bear responsibility IMO for allowing this to continue happening and protecting the perps by deleting the evidence and claiming innocence.

    • Bernard , I have replied to your pasted above “comment”on every single site I have visited right after you ,regarding these attacks .You have spam posted that exact comment everywhere ,and here is my reply,for the record.Someone is obviously paying you to discredit Anonymous , and I have ( for free ha ha ) just ruined all your good/bad work .Try research your own facts in future instead of taking directions from a “leader” .Downstat on thurdsay eh? You lose once again CoS .

      To everyone else here ,
      Bear in mind folks , CoS is Anti epilepsy medication by default.

      The CoS have stooped far lower than this before in framing their opponents .CoS actually is against Epilepsy medication as a practice .In fact they encourage sufferer of this condition s NOT to take their meds ,and treat themselves with vitamins instead , its called “purification rundown” and is a dangerous process carried out by unliscensed laymen using Dianetics instead of recommended professional help. Thats how Herbert Pfaff died. Google it.

      Who has more reason to attack an epilepsy site , a cult who dosn’tagree with epilepsy meds…or a random group of people on the internet , most of who claim to not have a clue as to why they are being blamed.

      Perhaps now people will see why these anti Scientology rallies are taking place.

      • Tara, as the admin of CWE, I have first hand experience in what went down both last November and just before Easter this year. They tried to hit CWE 3 times in the week leading up to the recent NSE and EFA forum attacks.

        I saved copies of the 7chan /b/ threads where the attacks were being instigated both times (ie. last November and the recent EFA strike – see http://www.vbseo.com/f106/refback-came-handy-last… ). Shall I post the transcripts?

        This attack had nothing to do with Anon or CoS. It's just 7chan /b/tards doing what they do (over and over again). 7chan admins should stop condoning this crap and protecting the instigators IMO.

        And you are welcome for me shining a light wherever I can on the subject. Cockroaches don't like the light, do they?

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  68. seriously wasn't the chans i used my real email address for this and i have been on those imgboards for ages and saw NOTHING i dunno if its cos or some other retard but we had nothing to do with it

  69. seriously wasn’t the chans i used my real email address for this and i have been on those imgboards for ages and saw NOTHING i dunno if its cos or some other retard but we had nothing to do with it

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  71. Hard to say either way, but Scientology has been known to blame victims of any disease for transgressions they believe to have caused the condition.

    Check out Tory / Magoo's site at torymagoo DOT org. She was in CoS for decades, and actually left in part due to the insistence that she stop taking her seizure meds.

  72. Hard to say either way, but Scientology has been known to blame victims of any disease for transgressions they believe to have caused the condition.

    Check out Tory / Magoo’s site at torymagoo DOT org. She was in CoS for decades, and actually left in part due to the insistence that she stop taking her seizure meds.

  73. Pretty malicious, but I don't think it was Anonymous. From what I notice, raids are usually raids, they involve a bunch of people messing around with the target. I wouldn't put any stock into a single person hacking something for Anonymous. Anonymous has no spokespeople and besides all it takes to impersonate anon is some knowledge of memes, cat images and some mild abandonment of morality which anyone this planet could have.

    In my own biased view I have always believed anon punishes fucktarded individuals (mild and otherwise) on the internet not innocent people who were minding their own business. Though of course by innocent I mean something like old ladies on a forum talking about gardening and tea not 12 year old 'artistic' drama queens.

  74. Pretty malicious, but I don’t think it was Anonymous. From what I notice, raids are usually raids, they involve a bunch of people messing around with the target. I wouldn’t put any stock into a single person hacking something for Anonymous. Anonymous has no spokespeople and besides all it takes to impersonate anon is some knowledge of memes, cat images and some mild abandonment of morality which anyone this planet could have.

    In my own biased view I have always believed anon punishes fucktarded individuals (mild and otherwise) on the internet not innocent people who were minding their own business. Though of course by innocent I mean something like old ladies on a forum talking about gardening and tea not 12 year old ‘artistic’ drama queens.

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  77. Anonymous did not coordinate this attack. What Anonymous does coordinate is rallies against Scientology. Nothing more, nothing less. 4chan and Anonymous are not synonymous terms.

  78. Anonymous did not coordinate this attack. What Anonymous does coordinate is rallies against Scientology. Nothing more, nothing less. 4chan and Anonymous are not synonymous terms.

  79. To all:

    I don't rightly care "who" did it…the sonofabitch that did it ought to be prosecuted, no matter which affiliation he/she belongs to. This was a crime against humanity, and everyone involved ought to be ashamed it happened.

  80. To all:

    I don’t rightly care “who” did it…the sonofabitch that did it ought to be prosecuted, no matter which affiliation he/she belongs to. This was a crime against humanity, and everyone involved ought to be ashamed it happened.

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  82. Anon did it, I saw it on 420chan and 711chan's /i/ way back then

    Epic lulz were had

    Fuck all you moralfags in denial, this raid was started to end your idiotic protesting that tarnishes Anon's reputation as final boss of the internet

    By the way, to my knowledge none of the target sites were "hacked," we just inserted .gifs, flash files and javascripts. It's the sites' own fault for NOT preventing users from inserting that kind of content

    anonymous is legion

  83. Anon did it, I saw it on 420chan and 711chan’s /i/ way back then
    Epic lulz were had
    Fuck all you moralfags in denial, this raid was started to end your idiotic protesting that tarnishes Anon’s reputation as final boss of the internet

    By the way, to my knowledge none of the target sites were “hacked,” we just inserted .gifs, flash files and javascripts. It’s the sites’ own fault for NOT preventing users from inserting that kind of content

    anonymous is legion