A new episode of “Society: Why It’s Wrong” discussing the flawed logic behind the “fake geek girls” concept.
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Fellas and ladies, Please DO shower before going to any con !!!
Good video, but now I want to play Cards Against Humanity. :)
Interesting, but entirely misses the point of geek chic, and ignores societal trends towards gravitating towards what is currently “in” despite interest or lack there of. (Not that anyone is qualified to judge one way or the other).
It does also miss “fake geek girls” outside of the con scenario were said girl will make social media posts along the lines of “Got glasses I’m such a geek”, or “I love such and such a show” but then have no knowledge of the show what so ever. As there is a distinction to be made between not having seen much of a show and not having seen any.
A further downside to “fake geek girls” would be the psychological trauma for young geeks/nerds what have you, at being rejected by “pretty” or popular female equivalents who “love” geek boys but not “real” geek boys.
I’d suggest it’s time for young geeks/nerds to learn to take female rejection gracefully. If a woman, geek or not, were to claim she was psychologically traumatized by being rejected by a man, society would label her as crazy. Being interested in geek culture has nothing to do with someone’s sexuality. It’s a hobby.
Most men who call women fake geek girls are not referring to random outliers making posts on facebook about their glasses making them look geeky.
Being a ‘real geek boy’ is also not based upon your attractiveness. If a man can hold an interesting conversation and behaving in such a way that doesn’t indicate he thinks he’s entitled to a female’s interest because they have a common appreciation for a show or comic is much better than implying that a woman is a fake geek girl just because she’s not dating your definition of a real geek guy, which basically, when it comes down to it, only applies to you.
I love being called a fake geek girl, then just a quick look at the contents of my desktop (anime, games, tv series) shuts them up!
Don’t forget that a lot of geeks are elitist b-holes to begin with. They’ll talk for hours about Who, Trek, Comics and LOTR, but talk crap about anime and people that watch it. They like to believe that the stuff they’re into is so much better/more important than the stuff other people like. “She’s not a real geek because her fandom consists only of Firefly and Harry Potter. I don’t like those things, therefore her nerdiness is suspect.” I hate that crap! How can someone dressed up like Locutus sit there and make fun of someone for liking Trigun? The entire nerd culture is flawed and strange to me.
The one concept everyone’s missing is that nobody likes dishonesty.
I get it if you’re KINDA into a series or movie or whatever, I personally wouldn’t give a shit, as long as you don’t pretend to be a hardcore when you know you’re just casual about it. But if you say that you’re a HUGE Batman fan and you only saw The Dark Knight, you can think that, and nobody’s necessarily going to stop you or call you out on it, but a LOT of people are going to look at you and think “what a poser.”
Obviously, it’s a gray area because it’s impossible to measure how dedicated or authentic someone’s interests in a particular topic are, and I’m not shaming anyone who enjoys a comic, game, book, etc., but if you’re VERY LOUD AND VOCAL about the fan you claim to be, you can expect people to test your knowledge, especially if you look like you’re fresh out of a beauty pageant. It’s not UNHEARD of for hardcore geeks to also be very attractive, but to most geeks, it’s suspicious, since most hardcore geeks would much rather read comic scans online all day in favor of bathing or exercising, so the combination often doesn’t add up.
I’m a huge Metal Gear Solid fan, but I haven’t extensively played anything before Solid. I’ve had hardcore Metal Gear fans call me a fake to my face. Do you know why? Because they’re elitist pricks. That’s the majority of fanbases who want to talk about it – so they can compare their knowledge to other peoples’ and feel good about themselves, because they’re insecure and feel like they have something to prove.
I understand both sides, but I think the pandering, bandwagoning trend of sticking up for women in all social media situations 100% of the time is really getting old.
Women are capable, intelligent adults too, and they don’t always need you fighting their battles for them, as kind and appreciated as the gestures are. It further supports the socially-learned atittude that women are weak and helpless and need a man to step in and save them. Don’t just shoot down a perspective because you don’t understand it.
I see most of what you’re saying but I want to comment on the last paragraph. While women are capable, intelligent adults, there are still a lot of men (everywhere, but especially in hardcore geekdom) who don’t see us that way. Men who fundamentally see women as lesser will not listen to women anyway, but they will listen to other men. This is why we do need male allies to step in and say “Hey, you’re being a dick. Women in geekdom is good. Stop trying to chase them out.”
The major problem with cosplaying “geek girls” is not the cosplayer who spent hours of time and money on her cosplay. It is the girl who bought a cheap yellow bikini and a pikachu hat and wears it to a con to get attention. Most pokemon fans prefer other pokemon or even raichu to pikachu. The fact that the largest symbol for pokemon was picked to be featured in a no effort, sex object outfit is a little off putting. And really raichu is much cuter anyway.