47 Responses to Doctor Who is the Ultimate Sci-Fi Show [Venn Diagram]
WOOT! That is awesome and I totally agree!!
Pretty sure Star Trek had the Borg.
I was just thinking the same thing, but do they count as robots, aren't they just people with cybernetic enhancements?
My boyfriend and I just had this argument and came to the conclusion that cyborgs don't count as robots. We agreed that this diagram is still correct by remembering that the "tic toc" robots were killer robots in Dr. Who.
There are more killer robots in the classic doctor who, you must have only seen the new doctor who.
Lore?
Fair point but since Doctor Who predates, pretty much all other SciFi shows, this diagram is accurate :)
The Cybermen, first introduced in Doctor Who in 1966, are men who were made into robots, just like the Borg were, in Star Trek.
Jep, does the Borg not count?
And where is StarGate? It has also all three of them.
Nope, the Borg were cyborgs not robots. And Data was an Android.
Androids are a type of robot…
Well, then there was that one time the borg tried graphing human skin over Data's body, but then again they only got like an arm? Maybe?
Part of his arm and part of his face.
How many times has Wesley's nanobots almost destroyed the enterprise?
Oh, and what about futurama? It has all three.
One time, as far as I recall. Rewatching doesn't count ;)
LOL futurama does have all 3, and it's better than all of them, Futurama FTW, good call sir
on a related note, no.
Very good point Mr. Gage, now my previously posted argument resolution is blown to pieces and my original theory that Star Trek has killer robots is back in play. Thank you sir. I tip my hat.
Stargate is hiding behind the Tardus. (Or possibly inside it?) It knows it's just not up to par with Dr. Who.
Nah, Dr Who isn't true Sci-Fi. Not enough Sci for a given volume of Fi.
I beg your pardon. Have you ever WATCHED Dr. Who? It's full of fictiony science! Sonic screwdrivers, time machines, spaceships, neutrino flows, all sorts of science!
Doctor Who is no more or less SciFi than any other show. The Fi part pretty much ensures that and since no one knows what will happen in the future, no one can say what is more or less Sci.
I like it. But I think Star Wars fits under BSG at least. That had entire ROBOT ARMIES!
Only if you're counting the shitty prequel Trilogy, which any sane and true Star Wars fan knows is nothing more than a mockery to the Star Wars Saga as a whole.
Star Wars is a film, not a tv show….and the shitty Clone Wars cartoons do not count.
Way too much cheese factor to be above Star Trek, Terminator and BSG, Stargate, Star Wars, and on and on.
Satan's Robot and Lore were both from Star Trek and pretty hell bent on destruction.
For all those trying to put points against the diagram I would like to add however that Doctor Who is the only one to have these as rather constants. Even after eliminating the Cybermen from the list as they are augmented humanoids.
In Trek Data is constant but he isn't "killer" in the sense that he is going to kill you… killer in the sense of awesome sure.
I agree and ciberman, terminator are cyborgs, but not is importan
Well Star Trek did have Nomad – I think he qualifies as a "Killer Robot" and also the "Doomsday Machine" … sort of massive killer robot by most standards :)
There was also BBC's Red Dwarf. I think that's a few hair under Dr. Who in BBC scifi that's been across the pond.
Star trek has BORG! Your argument falls apart. :-) But Let's re-watch all of them anyway.
as previously mentioned, the borg are not robots.
Now I'm curious about Doctor Who and want to know more about the original source of inspirations.
I would have to say that Stargate has all three of these in copious amounts.
Without doing any research, I can name seasons and episodes when these three were all first introduced!
Time Travel: Season 2 Episode: 1969
Killer Robots: Season 3 Episode: Nemesis
Spaceships: Season 1 Episode: Children of the Gods
So, yeah, all three have been VERY constant with Stargate since the beginning of the show. Just wanted to point that out. :)
I agree and I LOVE Stargate. However, tie goes to Doctor Who since it came first.
I’m assuming that Firefly is the undisputed champion & really this is just vying for second best.
Er… didn't the original series of Star Trek have robotic replacements of characters in one episode? So Star trek has Robots? And if memory serves me right didn't shitty voyager have an episode with a robot in it (and i don't mean the acting style of the crew)
Stargate can also fit in the center. There are Goa'uld ships, Asgard ships, eventually Earth ships, plus misc. There is time travel by going through a wormhole that passes through a solar flare, or using the Ancient puddle jumper outfitted as a time machine. And there are killer robots, the Replicators!
Okay, this venn diagram wouldn't hold up to scientific scrutiny. But it would make an awesome t shirt!
Appreciate, APPRECIATE, AP-PRE-CI-ATE
Totally agree.
I'm sure this is cool for DW fans but all it really says is that DW covered the main sci-fi tropes over the course of many seasons. (As well as being inaccurate – there were killer robots in Trek, another long running franchise)
arseholes are a type of idiot!
Totally agree. Doctor Who is the best!!!!!
false,
star trek also has killer robots because in an episode of star trek TNG data's twin killed an entire settlement and tried to kill all life on the enterprise
and in the star trek voyager series there was a robot intelligence that was built for repairing satellites and ended up destroying the entire race of their "creators"
another episode in star trek voyager there was a doomsday robot that was in the holodeck when an photonic based life form from another dimension appeared and disrupted holodeck controls
in another episode there was an intelligent sentient robot that turned out to be an instrument for war, an intelligent bomb, sent to bomb an enemy at all costs
i could go on. dr who is not the ultimate sci fi
WOOT! That is awesome and I totally agree!!
Pretty sure Star Trek had the Borg.
I was just thinking the same thing, but do they count as robots, aren't they just people with cybernetic enhancements?
My boyfriend and I just had this argument and came to the conclusion that cyborgs don't count as robots. We agreed that this diagram is still correct by remembering that the "tic toc" robots were killer robots in Dr. Who.
There are more killer robots in the classic doctor who, you must have only seen the new doctor who.
Lore?
Fair point but since Doctor Who predates, pretty much all other SciFi shows, this diagram is accurate :)
The Cybermen, first introduced in Doctor Who in 1966, are men who were made into robots, just like the Borg were, in Star Trek.
Jep, does the Borg not count?
And where is StarGate? It has also all three of them.
Nope, the Borg were cyborgs not robots. And Data was an Android.
Androids are a type of robot…
Well, then there was that one time the borg tried graphing human skin over Data's body, but then again they only got like an arm? Maybe?
Part of his arm and part of his face.
How many times has Wesley's nanobots almost destroyed the enterprise?
Oh, and what about futurama? It has all three.
One time, as far as I recall. Rewatching doesn't count ;)
LOL futurama does have all 3, and it's better than all of them, Futurama FTW, good call sir
on a related note, no.
Very good point Mr. Gage, now my previously posted argument resolution is blown to pieces and my original theory that Star Trek has killer robots is back in play. Thank you sir. I tip my hat.
Stargate is hiding behind the Tardus. (Or possibly inside it?) It knows it's just not up to par with Dr. Who.
Nah, Dr Who isn't true Sci-Fi. Not enough Sci for a given volume of Fi.
I beg your pardon. Have you ever WATCHED Dr. Who? It's full of fictiony science! Sonic screwdrivers, time machines, spaceships, neutrino flows, all sorts of science!
Doctor Who is no more or less SciFi than any other show. The Fi part pretty much ensures that and since no one knows what will happen in the future, no one can say what is more or less Sci.
I like it. But I think Star Wars fits under BSG at least. That had entire ROBOT ARMIES!
Only if you're counting the shitty prequel Trilogy, which any sane and true Star Wars fan knows is nothing more than a mockery to the Star Wars Saga as a whole.
Star Wars is a film, not a tv show….and the shitty Clone Wars cartoons do not count.
Way too much cheese factor to be above Star Trek, Terminator and BSG, Stargate, Star Wars, and on and on.
Satan's Robot and Lore were both from Star Trek and pretty hell bent on destruction.
For all those trying to put points against the diagram I would like to add however that Doctor Who is the only one to have these as rather constants. Even after eliminating the Cybermen from the list as they are augmented humanoids.
In Trek Data is constant but he isn't "killer" in the sense that he is going to kill you… killer in the sense of awesome sure.
I agree and ciberman, terminator are cyborgs, but not is importan
Well Star Trek did have Nomad – I think he qualifies as a "Killer Robot" and also the "Doomsday Machine" … sort of massive killer robot by most standards :)
There was also BBC's Red Dwarf. I think that's a few hair under Dr. Who in BBC scifi that's been across the pond.
Star trek has BORG! Your argument falls apart. :-) But Let's re-watch all of them anyway.
as previously mentioned, the borg are not robots.
Now I'm curious about Doctor Who and want to know more about the original source of inspirations.
I would have to say that Stargate has all three of these in copious amounts.
Without doing any research, I can name seasons and episodes when these three were all first introduced!
Time Travel: Season 2 Episode: 1969
Killer Robots: Season 3 Episode: Nemesis
Spaceships: Season 1 Episode: Children of the Gods
So, yeah, all three have been VERY constant with Stargate since the beginning of the show. Just wanted to point that out. :)
I agree and I LOVE Stargate. However, tie goes to Doctor Who since it came first.
I’m assuming that Firefly is the undisputed champion & really this is just vying for second best.
Er… didn't the original series of Star Trek have robotic replacements of characters in one episode? So Star trek has Robots? And if memory serves me right didn't shitty voyager have an episode with a robot in it (and i don't mean the acting style of the crew)
Stargate can also fit in the center. There are Goa'uld ships, Asgard ships, eventually Earth ships, plus misc. There is time travel by going through a wormhole that passes through a solar flare, or using the Ancient puddle jumper outfitted as a time machine. And there are killer robots, the Replicators!
Okay, this venn diagram wouldn't hold up to scientific scrutiny. But it would make an awesome t shirt!
Appreciate, APPRECIATE, AP-PRE-CI-ATE
Totally agree.
I'm sure this is cool for DW fans but all it really says is that DW covered the main sci-fi tropes over the course of many seasons. (As well as being inaccurate – there were killer robots in Trek, another long running franchise)
arseholes are a type of idiot!
Totally agree. Doctor Who is the best!!!!!
false,
star trek also has killer robots because in an episode of star trek TNG data's twin killed an entire settlement and tried to kill all life on the enterprise
and in the star trek voyager series there was a robot intelligence that was built for repairing satellites and ended up destroying the entire race of their "creators"
another episode in star trek voyager there was a doomsday robot that was in the holodeck when an photonic based life form from another dimension appeared and disrupted holodeck controls
in another episode there was an intelligent sentient robot that turned out to be an instrument for war, an intelligent bomb, sent to bomb an enemy at all costs
i could go on. dr who is not the ultimate sci fi
ctrl+F "Futurama" … 3 matches.
Miserable.