<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: Mirror Reversal Problem</title> <atom:link href="http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2009/08/24/mirror-reversal-problem/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2009/08/24/mirror-reversal-problem/</link> <description>tech, science, news and social issues for geeks</description> <lastBuildDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 02:23:03 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=</generator> <item><title>By: MikeO</title><link>http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2009/08/24/mirror-reversal-problem/#comment-316141</link> <dc:creator>MikeO</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2011 14:25:50 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.geeksaresexy.net/?p=16840#comment-316141</guid> <description>. Well, I thought I&#039;d wait to see if anyone would twist my arm to post the FULL answer, but I guess I&#039;ll have to do it myself.  Ouch, ouch, OUCH!   Ok, ok, I&#039;ll post it if you insist...... *** A New Approach to an Old Problem    Part 1 of 2 The mirror reversal puzzle is not so much a matter of the science of light rays,‭ ‬optics,‭ ‬and the Physics behind mirror reflection,‭ ‬but is far more a PEOPLE thing.‭ I&#8217;d say it can best be solved by a science of human activities,‭ ‬a science that deals with how people interact with complicated or subtle things.‭ ‬The structure of‭ &#8220;‬reversedness‭&#8221; ‬in a human being&#8217;s mental imagery is far more subtle than the reversal of a photon&#8217;s trajectory. When people want to compare any two nearly identical objects for some subtle difference there are two common strategies they can use.‭ ‬These two strategies are often useful,‭ ‬but they are also oddly contradictory. ‭*** In one strategy,‭ ‬the two objects are lined up to face in the same direction before they are compared.‭ ‬For instance,‭ ‬if two nearly identical pens are to be compared,‭ ‬no one I know of would ever hold one pen horizontally,‭ ‬the other vertically,‭ ‬and then proceed to compare them.‭ ‬People commonly want hold them facing in the same direction for such a task.‭ When a person uses this strategy in the mirror situation they like to imagine themselves rotating about a vertical axis for a comparison with their image.‭ ‬This rotation brings them to face the same direction as their earlier image was pointing.‭ ‬This also requires them to mentally freeze their image as it was when they faced the mirror.‭ ‬When ALL this is done,‭ ‬the Left/Right reversal is obvious.‭ It can get a little complicated,‭ ‬but many people seem to have the mental circuitry to perform all this in a near subconscious flash of imagery.‭ ‬Verbalizing it is far more difficult and hardly anyone can hold on to the images long enough to do that. ‭*** The second common human strategy for dealing with complicated situations,‭ ‬is to freeze EVERYTHING,‭ ‬avoid disturbing the scene,‭ ‬and look at the situation‭ &#8220;‬as is‭&#8221; ‬in order to perform an analysis of the subtle differences between two objects.‭ ‬This is the classic Sherlock Holmes approach to a crime scene. In the mirror setup,‭ ‬performing this‭ &#8220;‬as is‭&#8221; ‬strategy means NOT rotating anything at all before doing the comparison between image and object,‭ ‬and the Left/Right reversal fails to show up.‭ ‬Instead,‭ ‬a Front/Back reversal is apparent in this‭ &#8220;‬as is‭&#8221; ‬comparison. to be continued . </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>.</p><p>Well, I thought I&#039;d wait to see if anyone would twist my arm to post the FULL answer, but I guess I&#039;ll have to do it myself.  Ouch, ouch, OUCH!   Ok, ok, I&#039;ll post it if you insist&#8230;&#8230;</p><p>***</p><p>A New Approach to an Old Problem    Part 1 of 2</p><p>The mirror reversal puzzle is not so much a matter of the science of light rays,‭ ‬optics,‭ ‬and the Physics behind mirror reflection,‭ ‬but is far more a PEOPLE thing.‭</p><p>I&rsquo;d say it can best be solved by a science of human activities,‭ ‬a science that deals with how people interact with complicated or subtle things.‭ ‬The structure of‭ &ldquo;‬reversedness‭&rdquo; ‬in a human being&rsquo;s mental imagery is far more subtle than the reversal of a photon&rsquo;s trajectory.</p><p>When people want to compare any two nearly identical objects for some subtle difference there are two common strategies they can use.‭ ‬These two strategies are often useful,‭ ‬but they are also oddly contradictory.</p><p>‭***</p><p>In one strategy,‭ ‬the two objects are lined up to face in the same direction before they are compared.‭ ‬For instance,‭ ‬if two nearly identical pens are to be compared,‭ ‬no one I know of would ever hold one pen horizontally,‭ ‬the other vertically,‭ ‬and then proceed to compare them.‭ ‬People commonly want hold them facing in the same direction for such a task.‭</p><p>When a person uses this strategy in the mirror situation they like to imagine themselves rotating about a vertical axis for a comparison with their image.‭ ‬This rotation brings them to face the same direction as their earlier image was pointing.‭ ‬This also requires them to mentally freeze their image as it was when they faced the mirror.‭ ‬When ALL this is done,‭ ‬the Left/Right reversal is obvious.‭</p><p>It can get a little complicated,‭ ‬but many people seem to have the mental circuitry to perform all this in a near subconscious flash of imagery.‭ ‬Verbalizing it is far more difficult and hardly anyone can hold on to the images long enough to do that.</p><p>‭***</p><p>The second common human strategy for dealing with complicated situations,‭ ‬is to freeze EVERYTHING,‭ ‬avoid disturbing the scene,‭ ‬and look at the situation‭ &ldquo;‬as is‭&rdquo; ‬in order to perform an analysis of the subtle differences between two objects.‭ ‬This is the classic Sherlock Holmes approach to a crime scene.</p><p>In the mirror setup,‭ ‬performing this‭ &ldquo;‬as is‭&rdquo; ‬strategy means NOT rotating anything at all before doing the comparison between image and object,‭ ‬and the Left/Right reversal fails to show up.‭ ‬Instead,‭ ‬a Front/Back reversal is apparent in this‭ &ldquo;‬as is‭&rdquo; ‬comparison.</p><p>to be continued</p><p>.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: MikeO</title><link>http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2009/08/24/mirror-reversal-problem/#comment-315789</link> <dc:creator>MikeO</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2011 19:58:46 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.geeksaresexy.net/?p=16840#comment-315789</guid> <description>. Hint:   the HUMAN PERCEPTION of a reversal is far more complicated than the reversal of a photon&#039;s trajectory. The riddle can be slightly altered tp show this reversal perception is not being full addressed by stating it thusly: Why does a mirror SEEM to reverse left and right but it never seems to reverse up and down. MikeO . </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>.</p><p>Hint:   the HUMAN PERCEPTION of a reversal is far more complicated than the reversal of a photon&#039;s trajectory.</p><p>The riddle can be slightly altered tp show this reversal perception is not being full addressed by stating it thusly:</p><p>Why does a mirror SEEM to reverse left and right but it never seems to reverse up and down.</p><p>MikeO</p><p>.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: MikeO</title><link>http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2009/08/24/mirror-reversal-problem/#comment-315767</link> <dc:creator>MikeO</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2011 16:15:41 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.geeksaresexy.net/?p=16840#comment-315767</guid> <description>Yes, all serriousness aside, he was quite a man, no joke. HOWEVER, on this one issue of the mirror, I have dared to think he was wrong... or at least incomplete. There is a more complete answer to the mirror riddle. Anyone interested? MikeO </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, all serriousness aside, he was quite a man, no joke.</p><p>HOWEVER, on this one issue of the mirror, I have dared to think he was wrong&#8230; or at least incomplete.</p><p>There is a more complete answer to the mirror riddle.</p><p>Anyone interested?</p><p>MikeO</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Doc Rock</title><link>http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2009/08/24/mirror-reversal-problem/#comment-184928</link> <dc:creator>Doc Rock</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 04:18:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.geeksaresexy.net/?p=16840#comment-184928</guid> <description>Surely, he&#039;s joking! </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely, he&#039;s joking!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Doc Rock</title><link>http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2009/08/24/mirror-reversal-problem/#comment-272820</link> <dc:creator>Doc Rock</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 04:18:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.geeksaresexy.net/?p=16840#comment-272820</guid> <description>Surely, he&#039;s joking!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely, he&#8217;s joking!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Michael</title><link>http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2009/08/24/mirror-reversal-problem/#comment-184532</link> <dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 00:18:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.geeksaresexy.net/?p=16840#comment-184532</guid> <description>thanks so much for this. he was quite a man. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks so much for this. he was quite a man.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Michael</title><link>http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2009/08/24/mirror-reversal-problem/#comment-272819</link> <dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 00:18:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.geeksaresexy.net/?p=16840#comment-272819</guid> <description>thanks so much for this. he was quite a man.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks so much for this. he was quite a man.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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