<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: [GAS] Explains: Music Royalties for Dummies</title> <atom:link href="http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2009/07/21/music-royalties-for-dummies-or-ascap-is-not-the-riaa/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2009/07/21/music-royalties-for-dummies-or-ascap-is-not-the-riaa/</link> <description>tech, science, news and social issues for geeks</description> <lastBuildDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 07:53:04 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=</generator> <item><title>By: Ninjafats</title><link>http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2009/07/21/music-royalties-for-dummies-or-ascap-is-not-the-riaa/#comment-299501</link> <dc:creator>Ninjafats</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2011 13:22:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.geeksaresexy.net/?p=15377#comment-299501</guid> <description>(the copyright only reverts to the recording artist once they&#8217;ve &#8220;recouped&#8221; the cost of the recording &#8211; but that&#8217;s a longer explanation for another day) - If this were true, maybe more artists would have not hated their labels. But this isn&#039;t true in most cases. You are confusing copyright and royalties. They get ROYALTIES after they&#039;ve recouped the costs. How&#039;s that for scary? This often includes marketing, and whatever else the label decides to include.&#160; Also, the record company often owns the artist in an all-in sort of deal, and their exclusivity, often paying for their tour and making money off their radio play. If they didn&#039;t, they wouldn&#039;t care about internet streaming. They aren&#039;t concerned about the artist, trust me. If it is the recording that is playing, you can bet they will get a piece of the pie. If it is an artist they are marketing, you can bet they want more than one slice. Ascap wants a bigger slice too, because they make money based on percentage. Sure, the artist might get more, but more importantly, to them, it gets ASCAP more.&#160; The music industry is a complicated and annoying, which is why so many artists are breaking free and trying to simplify things.&#160; </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(the copyright only reverts to the recording artist once they&rsquo;ve &ldquo;recouped&rdquo; the cost of the recording &ndash; but that&rsquo;s a longer explanation for another day) &#8211; If this were true, maybe more artists would have not hated their labels. But this isn&#039;t true in most cases. You are confusing copyright and royalties. They get ROYALTIES after they&#039;ve recouped the costs. How&#039;s that for scary? This often includes marketing, and whatever else the label decides to include.&nbsp;<br /> Also, the record company often owns the artist in an all-in sort of deal, and their exclusivity, often paying for their tour and making money off their radio play. If they didn&#039;t, they wouldn&#039;t care about internet streaming. They aren&#039;t concerned about the artist, trust me. If it is the recording that is playing, you can bet they will get a piece of the pie. If it is an artist they are marketing, you can bet they want more than one slice. Ascap wants a bigger slice too, because they make money based on percentage. Sure, the artist might get more, but more importantly, to them, it gets ASCAP more.&nbsp;</p><p>The music industry is a complicated and annoying, which is why so many artists are breaking free and trying to simplify things.&nbsp;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: E2K</title><link>http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2009/07/21/music-royalties-for-dummies-or-ascap-is-not-the-riaa/#comment-260442</link> <dc:creator>E2K</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 14 Aug 2010 20:48:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.geeksaresexy.net/?p=15377#comment-260442</guid> <description>Interesting article.  Meanwhile, millions of copyrighted songs, videos and movies are downloaded and streamed every day with no royalties paid.  Restaurant staffs sing &quot;happy birthday&quot; without paying royalties.  The list goes on... The system is broken, and there will always be a way to obtain media without paying for it.  The industry must adapt itself to this reality. As a consumer and a very savvy &#039;net user, I am going to do what pleases me, record labels &amp; studios be darned.  Deal with it. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting article.  Meanwhile, millions of copyrighted songs, videos and movies are downloaded and streamed every day with no royalties paid.  Restaurant staffs sing &quot;happy birthday&quot; without paying royalties.  The list goes on&#8230;</p><p>The system is broken, and there will always be a way to obtain media without paying for it.  The industry must adapt itself to this reality. As a consumer and a very savvy &#039;net user, I am going to do what pleases me, record labels &amp; studios be darned.  Deal with it.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: CreamKreator</title><link>http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2009/07/21/music-royalties-for-dummies-or-ascap-is-not-the-riaa/#comment-174058</link> <dc:creator>CreamKreator</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 08:28:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.geeksaresexy.net/?p=15377#comment-174058</guid> <description>That youtube thing is pretty obvious, no one should pay double for the same material.. As a former recording artist and presently as a studio engineer i have a mixed view of the situation. As an artist i would like to get more from the pie but as an engineer both sides provide me with a job. Longer commitments come from the recording companies, more interesting deals come from the artists. The former means more money in the long run and the latter doesn&#039;t necessarily pay as much but are more fun. Anyway the situation has changed in the last 10 years and more and more i see the artists involvement rise. More income comes now from the live shows and as a music consumer that is a good thing. I do shamelessly download music and that is because if i don&#039;t, i definately won&#039;t pay for that album (or can&#039;t even purchase it anywhere in most cases ie small labels, obscure artists, geographical locations etc..) and thus won&#039;t be listening to it. For the individual people in the business the internet hasn&#039;t cause jobloss, quite the contrary. Those with knowledge and talent have even more opportunities than before. Back then the artists used studios only for demos and the labels contracted only a handful of studios to do the expensive stuff. Now it&#039; is more diversified and i think that the overall quality hasn&#039;t dropped much (there are numoerous examples even in the mainstream to note the contrary thou..) and the volume of recordings have skyrocketted. As an artist, i won&#039;t mind sharing my music if someone really wants to listen it in Japan and more people listen, the more likely you&#039;re getting gigs, labels will back you up and so on.. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That youtube thing is pretty obvious, no one should pay double for the same material..</p><p>As a former recording artist and presently as a studio engineer i have a mixed view of the situation. As an artist i would like to get more from the pie but as an engineer both sides provide me with a job. Longer commitments come from the recording companies, more interesting deals come from the artists. The former means more money in the long run and the latter doesn&#039;t necessarily pay as much but are more fun.</p><p>Anyway the situation has changed in the last 10 years and more and more i see the artists involvement rise. More income comes now from the live shows and as a music consumer that is a good thing. I do shamelessly download music and that is because if i don&#039;t, i definately won&#039;t pay for that album (or can&#039;t even purchase it anywhere in most cases ie small labels, obscure artists, geographical locations etc..) and thus won&#039;t be listening to it. For the individual people in the business the internet hasn&#039;t cause jobloss, quite the contrary. Those with knowledge and talent have even more opportunities than before. Back then the artists used studios only for demos and the labels contracted only a handful of studios to do the expensive stuff. Now it&#039; is more diversified and i think that the overall quality hasn&#039;t dropped much (there are numoerous examples even in the mainstream to note the contrary thou..) and the volume of recordings have skyrocketted.</p><p>As an artist, i won&#039;t mind sharing my music if someone really wants to listen it in Japan and more people listen, the more likely you&#039;re getting gigs, labels will back you up and so on..</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: CreamKreator</title><link>http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2009/07/21/music-royalties-for-dummies-or-ascap-is-not-the-riaa/#comment-277294</link> <dc:creator>CreamKreator</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 08:28:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.geeksaresexy.net/?p=15377#comment-277294</guid> <description>That youtube thing is pretty obvious, no one should pay double for the same material..As a former recording artist and presently as a studio engineer i have a mixed view of the situation. As an artist i would like to get more from the pie but as an engineer both sides provide me with a job. Longer commitments come from the recording companies, more interesting deals come from the artists. The former means more money in the long run and the latter doesn&#039;t necessarily pay as much but are more fun.Anyway the situation has changed in the last 10 years and more and more i see the artists involvement rise. More income comes now from the live shows and as a music consumer that is a good thing. I do shamelessly download music and that is because if i don&#039;t, i definately won&#039;t pay for that album (or can&#039;t even purchase it anywhere in most cases ie small labels, obscure artists, geographical locations etc..) and thus won&#039;t be listening to it. For the individual people in the business the internet hasn&#039;t cause jobloss, quite the contrary. Those with knowledge and talent have even more opportunities than before. Back then the artists used studios only for demos and the labels contracted only a handful of studios to do the expensive stuff. Now it&#039; is more diversified and i think that the overall quality hasn&#039;t dropped much (there are numoerous examples even in the mainstream to note the contrary thou..) and the volume of recordings have skyrocketted.As an artist, i won&#039;t mind sharing my music if someone really wants to listen it in Japan and more people listen, the more likely you&#039;re getting gigs, labels will back you up and so on..</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That youtube thing is pretty obvious, no one should pay double for the same material..</p><p>As a former recording artist and presently as a studio engineer i have a mixed view of the situation. As an artist i would like to get more from the pie but as an engineer both sides provide me with a job. Longer commitments come from the recording companies, more interesting deals come from the artists. The former means more money in the long run and the latter doesn&#8217;t necessarily pay as much but are more fun.</p><p>Anyway the situation has changed in the last 10 years and more and more i see the artists involvement rise. More income comes now from the live shows and as a music consumer that is a good thing. I do shamelessly download music and that is because if i don&#8217;t, i definately won&#8217;t pay for that album (or can&#8217;t even purchase it anywhere in most cases ie small labels, obscure artists, geographical locations etc..) and thus won&#8217;t be listening to it. For the individual people in the business the internet hasn&#8217;t cause jobloss, quite the contrary. Those with knowledge and talent have even more opportunities than before. Back then the artists used studios only for demos and the labels contracted only a handful of studios to do the expensive stuff. Now it&#8217; is more diversified and i think that the overall quality hasn&#8217;t dropped much (there are numoerous examples even in the mainstream to note the contrary thou..) and the volume of recordings have skyrocketted.</p><p>As an artist, i won&#8217;t mind sharing my music if someone really wants to listen it in Japan and more people listen, the more likely you&#8217;re getting gigs, labels will back you up and so on..</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Church</title><link>http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2009/07/21/music-royalties-for-dummies-or-ascap-is-not-the-riaa/#comment-174016</link> <dc:creator>Church</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 01:06:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.geeksaresexy.net/?p=15377#comment-174016</guid> <description>The sad thing is that this only scratches the surface of the problem. It&#039;s turtles all the way down. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The sad thing is that this only scratches the surface of the problem. It&#039;s turtles all the way down.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Church</title><link>http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2009/07/21/music-royalties-for-dummies-or-ascap-is-not-the-riaa/#comment-277293</link> <dc:creator>Church</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 01:06:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.geeksaresexy.net/?p=15377#comment-277293</guid> <description>The sad thing is that this only scratches the surface of the problem. It&#039;s turtles all the way down.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The sad thing is that this only scratches the surface of the problem. It&#8217;s turtles all the way down.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Rich</title><link>http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2009/07/21/music-royalties-for-dummies-or-ascap-is-not-the-riaa/#comment-174004</link> <dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 22:11:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.geeksaresexy.net/?p=15377#comment-174004</guid> <description>great info, thanks for putting it all in one place.  I know it&#039;s a bit more complicated than that, but I appreciate it. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great info, thanks for putting it all in one place.  I know it&#039;s a bit more complicated than that, but I appreciate it.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Rich</title><link>http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2009/07/21/music-royalties-for-dummies-or-ascap-is-not-the-riaa/#comment-277292</link> <dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 22:11:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.geeksaresexy.net/?p=15377#comment-277292</guid> <description>great info, thanks for putting it all in one place.  I know it&#039;s a bit more complicated than that, but I appreciate it.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great info, thanks for putting it all in one place.  I know it&#8217;s a bit more complicated than that, but I appreciate it.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: mike</title><link>http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2009/07/21/music-royalties-for-dummies-or-ascap-is-not-the-riaa/#comment-173833</link> <dc:creator>mike</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 23:33:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.geeksaresexy.net/?p=15377#comment-173833</guid> <description>i quit downloading music a long time ago when all this fuss started.  i also quit buying music almost entirely at the same time..  Radio is free to listen to (for now)  So as long as Riaa and others prosecute, i wont buy CDs unless there from independent artists. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i quit downloading music a long time ago when all this fuss started.  i also quit buying music almost entirely at the same time..  Radio is free to listen to (for now)  So as long as Riaa and others prosecute, i wont buy CDs unless there from independent artists.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: mike</title><link>http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2009/07/21/music-royalties-for-dummies-or-ascap-is-not-the-riaa/#comment-277291</link> <dc:creator>mike</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 23:33:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.geeksaresexy.net/?p=15377#comment-277291</guid> <description>i quit downloading music a long time ago when all this fuss started.  i also quit buying music almost entirely at the same time..  Radio is free to listen to (for now)  So as long as Riaa and others prosecute, i wont buy CDs unless there from independent artists.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i quit downloading music a long time ago when all this fuss started.  i also quit buying music almost entirely at the same time..  Radio is free to listen to (for now)  So as long as Riaa and others prosecute, i wont buy CDs unless there from independent artists.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Sampi</title><link>http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2009/07/21/music-royalties-for-dummies-or-ascap-is-not-the-riaa/#comment-173800</link> <dc:creator>Sampi</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 17:39:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.geeksaresexy.net/?p=15377#comment-173800</guid> <description>The way copyright laws are being used to sue individuals who are simply sharing music is ridiculous. Even more ridiculous is this blogs-with-youtube-videos-that-contain-copyrighted-music thing. Look at it, it even sounds stupid when you say it. Also, I think internet radio should be held to the same standard as normal radio. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The way copyright laws are being used to sue individuals who are simply sharing music is ridiculous. Even more ridiculous is this blogs-with-youtube-videos-that-contain-copyrighted-music thing. Look at it, it even sounds stupid when you say it.</p><p>Also, I think internet radio should be held to the same standard as normal radio.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Sampi</title><link>http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2009/07/21/music-royalties-for-dummies-or-ascap-is-not-the-riaa/#comment-277290</link> <dc:creator>Sampi</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 17:39:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.geeksaresexy.net/?p=15377#comment-277290</guid> <description>The way copyright laws are being used to sue individuals who are simply sharing music is ridiculous. Even more ridiculous is this blogs-with-youtube-videos-that-contain-copyrighted-music thing. Look at it, it even sounds stupid when you say it.Also, I think internet radio should be held to the same standard as normal radio.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The way copyright laws are being used to sue individuals who are simply sharing music is ridiculous. Even more ridiculous is this blogs-with-youtube-videos-that-contain-copyrighted-music thing. Look at it, it even sounds stupid when you say it.</p><p>Also, I think internet radio should be held to the same standard as normal radio.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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