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	<title>Comments on: Apple to Mac users: No anti-virus software? Get it now!</title>
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		<title>By: Morosoph</title>
		<link>http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2008/12/01/apple-to-mac-users-no-anti-virus-software-get-it-now/#comment-150710</link>
		<dc:creator>Morosoph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 10:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;If you never let some random program ask you for admin privilege, what’s the problem?&lt;/i&gt;

Hmmm.  I store a lot in ~.  Unix tools tend not to autorun stuff, but I suspect that the real difference is the savviness of the user.  Yeah, certainly there&#039;s an &lt;i&gt;intellectual&lt;/i&gt; challenge in writing a Linux virus (say), but the economic returns are small when the user won&#039;t, in general, co-operate!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>If you never let some random program ask you for admin privilege, what’s the problem?</i></p>
<p>Hmmm.  I store a lot in ~.  Unix tools tend not to autorun stuff, but I suspect that the real difference is the savviness of the user.  Yeah, certainly there&#8217;s an <i>intellectual</i> challenge in writing a Linux virus (say), but the economic returns are small when the user won&#8217;t, in general, co-operate!</p>
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		<title>By: Gadgetnut</title>
		<link>http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2008/12/01/apple-to-mac-users-no-anti-virus-software-get-it-now/#comment-121408</link>
		<dc:creator>Gadgetnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The entire page has now been pulled.

Here&#039;s the link to the story:
www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/12/03/apple_pulls_support_note_recommending_antivirus_software.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The entire page has now been pulled.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the link to the story:<br />
<a href="http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/12/03/apple_pulls_support_note_recommending_antivirus_software.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/12/03/apple_pulls_support_note_recommending_antivirus_software.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Gadgetnut</title>
		<link>http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2008/12/01/apple-to-mac-users-no-anti-virus-software-get-it-now/#comment-121407</link>
		<dc:creator>Gadgetnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:30:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The entire notice has now been pulled.  Here&#039;s the link:

Apple pulls support note recommending antivirus software

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/12/03/apple_pulls_support_note_recommending_antivirus_software.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The entire notice has now been pulled.  Here&#8217;s the link:</p>
<p>Apple pulls support note recommending antivirus software</p>
<p><a href="http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/12/03/apple_pulls_support_note_recommending_antivirus_software.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/12/03/apple_pulls_support_note_recommending_antivirus_software.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: webwoke</title>
		<link>http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2008/12/01/apple-to-mac-users-no-anti-virus-software-get-it-now/#comment-121335</link>
		<dc:creator>webwoke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 10:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, the system of mac not same as windows. And I thing that there is no system that 100% running without error. :D But i think for now, windows has a bigger percentages in malfunction of it&#039;s system. :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, the system of mac not same as windows. And I thing that there is no system that 100% running without error. :D But i think for now, windows has a bigger percentages in malfunction of it&#8217;s system. :D</p>
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		<title>By: Gadgetnut</title>
		<link>http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2008/12/01/apple-to-mac-users-no-anti-virus-software-get-it-now/#comment-121187</link>
		<dc:creator>Gadgetnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 19:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s an imperfect analogy likening the clearly human situation to computers.  The analogy would be closer on point if we were discussing the differences between humans and some random, non-related species. It&#039;s also non sequitur, and a bit misleading as well-- attempting to simply use another unrelated, emotionally-charged issue to make your point.

Simple fact is; *Windows* code cannot, does not &quot;infect&quot; Mac systems; any more than a human flu virus can infect a cat.  Windows malware is just as benign to a Mac system as is text, or a document file, or an encrypted file that one can&#039;t even open.  It&#039;s bits of code that have no effect on a Mac system. Not my problem!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s an imperfect analogy likening the clearly human situation to computers.  The analogy would be closer on point if we were discussing the differences between humans and some random, non-related species. It&#8217;s also non sequitur, and a bit misleading as well&#8211; attempting to simply use another unrelated, emotionally-charged issue to make your point.</p>
<p>Simple fact is; *Windows* code cannot, does not &#8220;infect&#8221; Mac systems; any more than a human flu virus can infect a cat.  Windows malware is just as benign to a Mac system as is text, or a document file, or an encrypted file that one can&#8217;t even open.  It&#8217;s bits of code that have no effect on a Mac system. Not my problem!</p>
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		<title>By: Jake Lockley</title>
		<link>http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2008/12/01/apple-to-mac-users-no-anti-virus-software-get-it-now/#comment-121171</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake Lockley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 18:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think a distinction needs to be made between being a carrier who spreads viruses and having a virus compromise your system. Just because you don&#039;t install a virus doesn&#039;t mean you aren&#039;t infected. If you don&#039;t have anti-virus software on your machine then how do you know? I&#039;ve had Mac users send me files with viruses they had no idea were on their machine. You know, just because you don&#039;t have AIDs doesn&#039;t mean you don&#039;t have HIV. Get anti-virus software, otherwise the cleanliness of your machine is nothing more than speculation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think a distinction needs to be made between being a carrier who spreads viruses and having a virus compromise your system. Just because you don&#8217;t install a virus doesn&#8217;t mean you aren&#8217;t infected. If you don&#8217;t have anti-virus software on your machine then how do you know? I&#8217;ve had Mac users send me files with viruses they had no idea were on their machine. You know, just because you don&#8217;t have AIDs doesn&#8217;t mean you don&#8217;t have HIV. Get anti-virus software, otherwise the cleanliness of your machine is nothing more than speculation.</p>
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		<title>By: Gadgetnut</title>
		<link>http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2008/12/01/apple-to-mac-users-no-anti-virus-software-get-it-now/#comment-121159</link>
		<dc:creator>Gadgetnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 18:04:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But the question that isn&#039;t answered, or I didn&#039;t see it, is whether this is tasking the Mac to eradicate Windows viruses or Mac viruses?

I thought that by definition, *nix doesn&#039;t have viruses, and that the only way that anything that can get onto your Mac system is if you use the admin password to let it install - a move that most of us instinctively know is st00pid.

If these are tools to protect against Windows viruses, and I don&#039;t use any Windows boxes, why do I care?  Why do *my* systems have to take a performance hit to protect st00pid Windows users somewhere else?  One of the things that made me move to Mac, and that I&#039;ve enjoyed, is specifically *not* having to run five pieces of software just to keep st00pid krap off my system.

Is the problem a Mac problem or a Windows problem?  If you never let some random program ask you for admin privilege, what&#039;s the problem?  What am I missing here?

NOT trying to start a religious war.  I&#039;m really after &#039;the rest of the story.&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But the question that isn&#8217;t answered, or I didn&#8217;t see it, is whether this is tasking the Mac to eradicate Windows viruses or Mac viruses?</p>
<p>I thought that by definition, *nix doesn&#8217;t have viruses, and that the only way that anything that can get onto your Mac system is if you use the admin password to let it install &#8211; a move that most of us instinctively know is st00pid.</p>
<p>If these are tools to protect against Windows viruses, and I don&#8217;t use any Windows boxes, why do I care?  Why do *my* systems have to take a performance hit to protect st00pid Windows users somewhere else?  One of the things that made me move to Mac, and that I&#8217;ve enjoyed, is specifically *not* having to run five pieces of software just to keep st00pid krap off my system.</p>
<p>Is the problem a Mac problem or a Windows problem?  If you never let some random program ask you for admin privilege, what&#8217;s the problem?  What am I missing here?</p>
<p>NOT trying to start a religious war.  I&#8217;m really after &#8216;the rest of the story.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Sampi</title>
		<link>http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2008/12/01/apple-to-mac-users-no-anti-virus-software-get-it-now/#comment-121028</link>
		<dc:creator>Sampi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 06:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2550&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&#039;s the source of the note.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2550" rel="nofollow">Here&#8217;s the source of the note.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2008/12/01/apple-to-mac-users-no-anti-virus-software-get-it-now/#comment-120885</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 20:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Source Please.  A google search came up with nothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Source Please.  A google search came up with nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: Kiltak</title>
		<link>http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2008/12/01/apple-to-mac-users-no-anti-virus-software-get-it-now/#comment-120857</link>
		<dc:creator>Kiltak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 18:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed. What I would be really curious to see is how much one of the 3 listed applications will affect the speed of a Mac system running OSX...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed. What I would be really curious to see is how much one of the 3 listed applications will affect the speed of a Mac system running OSX&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sampi</title>
		<link>http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2008/12/01/apple-to-mac-users-no-anti-virus-software-get-it-now/#comment-120855</link>
		<dc:creator>Sampi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 18:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fact that most viruses are written for Windows doesn&#039;t mean there are no viruses that affect Mac or Linux. Don&#039;t get me wrong, I like to make fun of Apple as much as the next guy but the note seems to be more about a safety net than a necessity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact that most viruses are written for Windows doesn&#8217;t mean there are no viruses that affect Mac or Linux. Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I like to make fun of Apple as much as the next guy but the note seems to be more about a safety net than a necessity.</p>
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