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	<title>Comments on: British bank changes &#8220;pants&#8221; password</title>
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		<title>By: The credit crunch</title>
		<link>http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2008/08/29/british-bank-changes-pants-password/#comment-109819</link>
		<dc:creator>The credit crunch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 14:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an amazing article. Ive posted an article about it on my blog linking back, great article and yes Lloyds is very pants.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an amazing article. Ive posted an article about it on my blog linking back, great article and yes Lloyds is very pants.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2008/08/29/british-bank-changes-pants-password/#comment-109401</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 17:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would just like to say, it doesn&#039;t concern me that Bank Employees can see my password because as it stands they can see my entire banking history at the same time. That said, the situation does concern me but only for the fact that someone in the general public could find out my password.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would just like to say, it doesn&#8217;t concern me that Bank Employees can see my password because as it stands they can see my entire banking history at the same time. That said, the situation does concern me but only for the fact that someone in the general public could find out my password.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2008/08/29/british-bank-changes-pants-password/#comment-109358</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 11:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And yet, when &quot;Sisterhood of the Travelling Pants&quot; came over here, no-one thought to change the name...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And yet, when &#8220;Sisterhood of the Travelling Pants&#8221; came over here, no-one thought to change the name&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: David Snow</title>
		<link>http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2008/08/29/british-bank-changes-pants-password/#comment-109256</link>
		<dc:creator>David Snow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 21:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most computer software NEVER stores your reall password. It runs the password thru a one-way lossey hash and stores that result. Each time you enter your password the software runs the password thru the same one-way lossey hash and compares this number with the one stores. You aren&#039;t supposed to be able to reconstruct the password from the hash.  If banks have such crappy software that they actually store &quot;raw&quot; readable passwords then we should all be scared about how safe our money really is.  Especially if employees can read this data.

/DaveS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most computer software NEVER stores your reall password. It runs the password thru a one-way lossey hash and stores that result. Each time you enter your password the software runs the password thru the same one-way lossey hash and compares this number with the one stores. You aren&#8217;t supposed to be able to reconstruct the password from the hash.  If banks have such crappy software that they actually store &#8220;raw&#8221; readable passwords then we should all be scared about how safe our money really is.  Especially if employees can read this data.</p>
<p>/DaveS</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2008/08/29/british-bank-changes-pants-password/#comment-102647</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 10:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it is funny indeed, but it is worrying that employees can access that data freely and without worries of being asked &quot;why are you looking at that?&quot;. Also, I cannot understand why that data wasn&#039;t encrypted. 
Either way, it wasn&#039;t clear which one of the two employees was dismissed: the one that accessed and changed the data or the one that didn&#039;t accept the new ones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it is funny indeed, but it is worrying that employees can access that data freely and without worries of being asked &#8220;why are you looking at that?&#8221;. Also, I cannot understand why that data wasn&#8217;t encrypted.<br />
Either way, it wasn&#8217;t clear which one of the two employees was dismissed: the one that accessed and changed the data or the one that didn&#8217;t accept the new ones.</p>
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		<title>By: Ellie</title>
		<link>http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2008/08/29/british-bank-changes-pants-password/#comment-101728</link>
		<dc:creator>Ellie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 04:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL @ pants being bad LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL @ pants being bad LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Mark O'Neill</title>
		<link>http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2008/08/29/british-bank-changes-pants-password/#comment-101654</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark O'Neill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 22:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup, in British English, pants are underwear.  It is also slang for something that is bad, terrible, stupid, screwed up, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup, in British English, pants are underwear.  It is also slang for something that is bad, terrible, stupid, screwed up, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy Rogers</title>
		<link>http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2008/08/29/british-bank-changes-pants-password/#comment-101652</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmy Rogers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 21:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The funniest part about this story, to me, is that &quot;pants&quot; is a derogatory term in some places :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The funniest part about this story, to me, is that &#8220;pants&#8221; is a derogatory term in some places :P</p>
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		<title>By: Phillip</title>
		<link>http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2008/08/29/british-bank-changes-pants-password/#comment-101472</link>
		<dc:creator>Phillip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 06:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was a bank employee for two years. We didn&#039;t know the customer PIN numbers or passwords, but we could change them if necessary, or at will if we really felt like it. For obvious reasons we didn&#039;t, but the passes are not completely yours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a bank employee for two years. We didn&#8217;t know the customer PIN numbers or passwords, but we could change them if necessary, or at will if we really felt like it. For obvious reasons we didn&#8217;t, but the passes are not completely yours.</p>
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		<title>By: Katy</title>
		<link>http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2008/08/29/british-bank-changes-pants-password/#comment-101330</link>
		<dc:creator>Katy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 13:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a Lloyds TSB Customer and I have two passwords with them, one for my Phone Banking (which I can never remember so have to go through the arduous process of trying to remember all my recent account activity) and my Internet Password. Lloyds staff don&#039;t have access to my Internet password, they do however see my Phone Bank one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a Lloyds TSB Customer and I have two passwords with them, one for my Phone Banking (which I can never remember so have to go through the arduous process of trying to remember all my recent account activity) and my Internet Password. Lloyds staff don&#8217;t have access to my Internet password, they do however see my Phone Bank one.</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
		<link>http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2008/08/29/british-bank-changes-pants-password/#comment-101326</link>
		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 13:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>he was probably calling in and the bank asked for his password.  there&#039;s no way a bank employee was going from account to account just looking at passwords.

unless lloyds really is pants.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>he was probably calling in and the bank asked for his password.  there&#8217;s no way a bank employee was going from account to account just looking at passwords.</p>
<p>unless lloyds really is pants.</p>
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		<title>By: Will Spaetzel</title>
		<link>http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2008/08/29/british-bank-changes-pants-password/#comment-101323</link>
		<dc:creator>Will Spaetzel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 12:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the biggest problem here is that the bank is able to see the customer&#039;s password at all. 

Shouldn&#039;t they be doing a 1-way encryption on all passwords? Storing passwords in plain text is a very bad idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the biggest problem here is that the bank is able to see the customer&#8217;s password at all. </p>
<p>Shouldn&#8217;t they be doing a 1-way encryption on all passwords? Storing passwords in plain text is a very bad idea.</p>
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