Comments on: Is ignorance a valid legal defense for file-sharing? http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2008/08/15/is-ignorance-a-valid-legal-defense-for-file-sharing/ tech, science, news and social issues for geeks Tue, 14 Feb 2012 07:53:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Sam Paganhttp://www.geeksaresexy.net/2008/08/15/is-ignorance-a-valid-legal-defense-for-file-sharing/#comment-98992 Sam Pagan Mon, 18 Aug 2008 20:23:00 +0000 http://www.geeksaresexy.net/?p=4273#comment-98992 I believe a 6 y/o may be too ignorant but not a 16 y/o. Give me a break, I mean, I knew what file sharing was when I was 14! And ten years later some 16 y/o wants to say that she doesn't know any better? Please. I believe a 6 y/o may be too ignorant but not a 16 y/o. Give me a break, I mean, I knew what file sharing was when I was 14! And ten years later some 16 y/o wants to say that she doesn't know any better? Please.

]]> By: Sam Paganhttp://www.geeksaresexy.net/2008/08/15/is-ignorance-a-valid-legal-defense-for-file-sharing/#comment-268025 Sam Pagan Mon, 18 Aug 2008 20:23:00 +0000 http://www.geeksaresexy.net/?p=4273#comment-268025 I believe a 6 y/o may be too ignorant but not a 16 y/o. Give me a break, I mean, I knew what file sharing was when I was 14! And ten years later some 16 y/o wants to say that she doesn't know any better? Please. I believe a 6 y/o may be too ignorant but not a 16 y/o. Give me a break, I mean, I knew what file sharing was when I was 14! And ten years later some 16 y/o wants to say that she doesn’t know any better? Please.

]]> By: Pete Moringhttp://www.geeksaresexy.net/2008/08/15/is-ignorance-a-valid-legal-defense-for-file-sharing/#comment-98886 Pete Moring Mon, 18 Aug 2008 06:59:00 +0000 http://www.geeksaresexy.net/?p=4273#comment-98886 I think record companies were too keen to jump on the 'digital' bandwagon and have exposed themselves unnecessarily. They should have stuck with CD's that were'locked' so that they couldn't be 'ripped'. YES! I believe there are millions of teenagers who believe what professional looking sites say on their pages. Just like most Americans believe the Bull-****' that their press writes about the interior political situation. Everybody is led by the nose into territory we know nothing about. A couple of years ago EVERYONE was being pressured to take out loans, mortgages etc, with the World Governments happy to go along with the assumption that it was OK. 'Things were good'. OH no they weren't, but I presume you're now saying that EVERYONE who has now LOST their homes because of government encouragement 'Knew' at the time they were doing it that they were committing financial suicide?? Get your act together (in your mind and in your respect for others naivety) The criminals are the site owners who promote the idea that it's OK to download this stuff, not the person who has been 'hoodwinked'. This teenager should have been let off completely on the condition she does a small commercial 'condemning' the sharp practise that 'suckered' her and millions of others just because they wanted to host 'pay-per-view' & 'pay-per-action' advertising which will have earned them probably Millions. Pete. I think record companies were too keen to jump on the 'digital' bandwagon and have exposed themselves unnecessarily. They should have stuck with CD's that were'locked' so that they couldn't be 'ripped'.

YES! I believe there are millions of teenagers who believe what professional looking sites say on their pages. Just like most Americans believe the Bull-****' that their press writes about the interior political situation.

Everybody is led by the nose into territory we know nothing about. A couple of years ago EVERYONE was being pressured to take out loans, mortgages etc, with the World Governments happy to go along with the assumption that it was OK. 'Things were good'. OH no they weren't, but I presume you're now saying that EVERYONE who has now LOST their homes because of government encouragement 'Knew' at the time they were doing it that they were committing financial suicide??

Get your act together (in your mind and in your respect for others naivety) The criminals are the site owners who promote the idea that it's OK to download this stuff, not the person who has been 'hoodwinked'.

This teenager should have been let off completely on the condition she does a small commercial 'condemning' the sharp practise that 'suckered' her and millions of others just because they wanted to host 'pay-per-view' & 'pay-per-action' advertising which will have earned them probably Millions.

Pete.

]]> By: Pete Moringhttp://www.geeksaresexy.net/2008/08/15/is-ignorance-a-valid-legal-defense-for-file-sharing/#comment-268024 Pete Moring Mon, 18 Aug 2008 06:59:00 +0000 http://www.geeksaresexy.net/?p=4273#comment-268024 I think record companies were too keen to jump on the 'digital' bandwagon and have exposed themselves unnecessarily. They should have stuck with CD's that were'locked' so that they couldn't be 'ripped'.YES! I believe there are millions of teenagers who believe what professional looking sites say on their pages. Just like most Americans believe the Bull-****' that their press writes about the interior political situation.Everybody is led by the nose into territory we know nothing about. A couple of years ago EVERYONE was being pressured to take out loans, mortgages etc, with the World Governments happy to go along with the assumption that it was OK. 'Things were good'. OH no they weren't, but I presume you're now saying that EVERYONE who has now LOST their homes because of government encouragement 'Knew' at the time they were doing it that they were committing financial suicide??Get your act together (in your mind and in your respect for others naivety) The criminals are the site owners who promote the idea that it's OK to download this stuff, not the person who has been 'hoodwinked'.This teenager should have been let off completely on the condition she does a small commercial 'condemning' the sharp practise that 'suckered' her and millions of others just because they wanted to host 'pay-per-view' & 'pay-per-action' advertising which will have earned them probably Millions.Pete. I think record companies were too keen to jump on the ‘digital’ bandwagon and have exposed themselves unnecessarily. They should have stuck with CD’s that were’locked’ so that they couldn’t be ‘ripped’.

YES! I believe there are millions of teenagers who believe what professional looking sites say on their pages. Just like most Americans believe the Bull-****’ that their press writes about the interior political situation.

Everybody is led by the nose into territory we know nothing about. A couple of years ago EVERYONE was being pressured to take out loans, mortgages etc, with the World Governments happy to go along with the assumption that it was OK. ‘Things were good’. OH no they weren’t, but I presume you’re now saying that EVERYONE who has now LOST their homes because of government encouragement ‘Knew’ at the time they were doing it that they were committing financial suicide??

Get your act together (in your mind and in your respect for others naivety) The criminals are the site owners who promote the idea that it’s OK to download this stuff, not the person who has been ‘hoodwinked’.

This teenager should have been let off completely on the condition she does a small commercial ‘condemning’ the sharp practise that ‘suckered’ her and millions of others just because they wanted to host ‘pay-per-view’ & ‘pay-per-action’ advertising which will have earned them probably Millions.

Pete.

]]> By: Green Datahttp://www.geeksaresexy.net/2008/08/15/is-ignorance-a-valid-legal-defense-for-file-sharing/#comment-98555 Green Data Sat, 16 Aug 2008 16:03:00 +0000 http://www.geeksaresexy.net/?p=4273#comment-98555 Excuse me, but I may disagree with the whole thing. I don't believe that people have to be punished for downloading pirated music. At the end of the day, it's not their fault that the songs are available for the to download for free. If those Copyright maniacs really want to prevent people from downloading their music they have to technically block those files, and not make traps for people who download them. Plus, let's say that a song is played on the radio, and I decided to record it, will they then have the right to arrest me! It's just the same situation as peer to peer. Excuse me, but I may disagree with the whole thing. I don't believe that people have to be punished for downloading pirated music. At the end of the day, it's not their fault that the songs are available for the to download for free. If those Copyright maniacs really want to prevent people from downloading their music they have to technically block those files, and not make traps for people who download them.

Plus, let's say that a song is played on the radio, and I decided to record it, will they then have the right to arrest me! It's just the same situation as peer to peer.

]]> By: Green Datahttp://www.geeksaresexy.net/2008/08/15/is-ignorance-a-valid-legal-defense-for-file-sharing/#comment-268022 Green Data Sat, 16 Aug 2008 16:03:00 +0000 http://www.geeksaresexy.net/?p=4273#comment-268022 Excuse me, but I may disagree with the whole thing. I don't believe that people have to be punished for downloading pirated music. At the end of the day, it's not their fault that the songs are available for the to download for free. If those Copyright maniacs really want to prevent people from downloading their music they have to technically block those files, and not make traps for people who download them. Plus, let's say that a song is played on the radio, and I decided to record it, will they then have the right to arrest me! It's just the same situation as peer to peer. Excuse me, but I may disagree with the whole thing. I don’t believe that people have to be punished for downloading pirated music. At the end of the day, it’s not their fault that the songs are available for the to download for free. If those Copyright maniacs really want to prevent people from downloading their music they have to technically block those files, and not make traps for people who download them.
Plus, let’s say that a song is played on the radio, and I decided to record it, will they then have the right to arrest me! It’s just the same situation as peer to peer.

]]> By: Green Datahttp://www.geeksaresexy.net/2008/08/15/is-ignorance-a-valid-legal-defense-for-file-sharing/#comment-268023 Green Data Sat, 16 Aug 2008 16:03:00 +0000 http://www.geeksaresexy.net/?p=4273#comment-268023 Excuse me, but I may disagree with the whole thing. I don't believe that people have to be punished for downloading pirated music. At the end of the day, it's not their fault that the songs are available for the to download for free. If those Copyright maniacs really want to prevent people from downloading their music they have to technically block those files, and not make traps for people who download them. Plus, let's say that a song is played on the radio, and I decided to record it, will they then have the right to arrest me! It's just the same situation as peer to peer. Excuse me, but I may disagree with the whole thing. I don’t believe that people have to be punished for downloading pirated music. At the end of the day, it’s not their fault that the songs are available for the to download for free. If those Copyright maniacs really want to prevent people from downloading their music they have to technically block those files, and not make traps for people who download them.
Plus, let’s say that a song is played on the radio, and I decided to record it, will they then have the right to arrest me! It’s just the same situation as peer to peer.

]]> By: PartyBartyhttp://www.geeksaresexy.net/2008/08/15/is-ignorance-a-valid-legal-defense-for-file-sharing/#comment-98546 PartyBarty Sat, 16 Aug 2008 14:09:00 +0000 http://www.geeksaresexy.net/?p=4273#comment-98546 I think the problem lies in the way society deals with/reacts on music downloading. I'm not a US citizen but i assume the overall mentality isn't so different from the one in Europe. Parents don't care that their kids download music but they're upset if their son would steal some candy in a shop. I don't approve of this, but it is the sad truth. Music/movie/... downloading is accepted as normal behaviour by almost anyone. When you are surrounded by friends, family,... who probably all do the same thing i can understand that some ignorant kids fail to comprehend the "magnitude" of what they are doing. I'm not quite sure how i stand on using deterrence (high fines) as the way to deal with the problem (you punish one kid in a million) + record labels have already earned moooore than enough money on the expense of both artists and listeners. A lot of small labels show that CD-prices can be dropped, thus making downloading less acceptable and less "necessary". I think the problem lies in the way society deals with/reacts on music downloading. I'm not a US citizen but i assume the overall mentality isn't so different from the one in Europe. Parents don't care that their kids download music but they're upset if their son would steal some candy in a shop. I don't approve of this, but it is the sad truth. Music/movie/… downloading is accepted as normal behaviour by almost anyone. When you are surrounded by friends, family,… who probably all do the same thing i can understand that some ignorant kids fail to comprehend the "magnitude" of what they are doing. I'm not quite sure how i stand on using deterrence (high fines) as the way to deal with the problem (you punish one kid in a million) + record labels have already earned moooore than enough money on the expense of both artists and listeners. A lot of small labels show that CD-prices can be dropped, thus making downloading less acceptable and less "necessary".

]]> By: PartyBartyhttp://www.geeksaresexy.net/2008/08/15/is-ignorance-a-valid-legal-defense-for-file-sharing/#comment-268021 PartyBarty Sat, 16 Aug 2008 14:09:00 +0000 http://www.geeksaresexy.net/?p=4273#comment-268021 I think the problem lies in the way society deals with/reacts on music downloading. I'm not a US citizen but i assume the overall mentality isn't so different from the one in Europe. Parents don't care that their kids download music but they're upset if their son would steal some candy in a shop. I don't approve of this, but it is the sad truth. Music/movie/... downloading is accepted as normal behaviour by almost anyone. When you are surrounded by friends, family,... who probably all do the same thing i can understand that some ignorant kids fail to comprehend the "magnitude" of what they are doing. I'm not quite sure how i stand on using deterrence (high fines) as the way to deal with the problem (you punish one kid in a million) + record labels have already earned moooore than enough money on the expense of both artists and listeners. A lot of small labels show that CD-prices can be dropped, thus making downloading less acceptable and less "necessary". I think the problem lies in the way society deals with/reacts on music downloading. I’m not a US citizen but i assume the overall mentality isn’t so different from the one in Europe. Parents don’t care that their kids download music but they’re upset if their son would steal some candy in a shop. I don’t approve of this, but it is the sad truth. Music/movie/… downloading is accepted as normal behaviour by almost anyone. When you are surrounded by friends, family,… who probably all do the same thing i can understand that some ignorant kids fail to comprehend the “magnitude” of what they are doing. I’m not quite sure how i stand on using deterrence (high fines) as the way to deal with the problem (you punish one kid in a million) + record labels have already earned moooore than enough money on the expense of both artists and listeners. A lot of small labels show that CD-prices can be dropped, thus making downloading less acceptable and less “necessary”.

]]> By: NeutralAngelhttp://www.geeksaresexy.net/2008/08/15/is-ignorance-a-valid-legal-defense-for-file-sharing/#comment-98534 NeutralAngel Sat, 16 Aug 2008 12:00:00 +0000 http://www.geeksaresexy.net/?p=4273#comment-98534 $200 for a 16 year old is pretty close to $750 for a college educated adult. Seems fair to me, and certainly a far cry from 'get out of jail FREE.' $200 for a 16 year old is pretty close to $750 for a college educated adult. Seems fair to me, and certainly a far cry from 'get out of jail FREE.'

]]> By: NeutralAngelhttp://www.geeksaresexy.net/2008/08/15/is-ignorance-a-valid-legal-defense-for-file-sharing/#comment-268020 NeutralAngel Sat, 16 Aug 2008 12:00:00 +0000 http://www.geeksaresexy.net/?p=4273#comment-268020 $200 for a 16 year old is pretty close to $750 for a college educated adult. Seems fair to me, and certainly a far cry from 'get out of jail FREE.' $200 for a 16 year old is pretty close to $750 for a college educated adult. Seems fair to me, and certainly a far cry from ‘get out of jail FREE.’

]]> By: Philliphttp://www.geeksaresexy.net/2008/08/15/is-ignorance-a-valid-legal-defense-for-file-sharing/#comment-98487 Phillip Sat, 16 Aug 2008 07:10:00 +0000 http://www.geeksaresexy.net/?p=4273#comment-98487 She was ignorant enough to get caught, so you never know. She was ignorant enough to get caught, so you never know.

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