<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: Should bloggers start a union?</title> <atom:link href="http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2008/06/16/should-bloggers-start-a-union/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2008/06/16/should-bloggers-start-a-union/</link> <description>tech, science, news and social issues for geeks</description> <lastBuildDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 03:56:23 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=</generator> <item><title>By: Pete Moring</title><link>http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2008/06/16/should-bloggers-start-a-union/#comment-81698</link> <dc:creator>Pete Moring</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 22:45:20 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.geeksaresexy.net/?p=2911#comment-81698</guid> <description>Unions ARE and always WILL BE the bully-boys of whatever industry they get involved with. The members become the &#039;victims&#039; of the jumped up twat who declares himself the leader. We in the UK &#039;almost&#039; banished all unions to the scrap-heap in the 80&#039;s. A few remain, and are constantly causing headaches for the public AND their members. I&#039;m not saying ALL unions behave this way, as many don&#039;t. But PLeeeeease let&#039;s keep the internet out of their &#039;grabbing&#039; little hands. They are a communist ideology. Reason enough I think. Pete. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unions ARE and always WILL BE the bully-boys of whatever industry they get involved with. The members become the &#039;victims&#039; of the jumped up twat who declares himself the leader.</p><p>We in the UK &#039;almost&#039; banished all unions to the scrap-heap in the 80&#039;s. A few remain, and are constantly causing headaches for the public AND their members.</p><p>I&#039;m not saying ALL unions behave this way, as many don&#039;t. But PLeeeeease let&#039;s keep the internet out of their &#039;grabbing&#039; little hands.</p><p>They are a communist ideology.</p><p>Reason enough I think.</p><p>Pete.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: TLP</title><link>http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2008/06/16/should-bloggers-start-a-union/#comment-81610</link> <dc:creator>TLP</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:10:59 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.geeksaresexy.net/?p=2911#comment-81610</guid> <description>Unions are something to scam the citizens out of money. The proper world would be Guild :D </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unions are something to scam the citizens out of money.</p><p>The proper world would be Guild :D</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mark O&#039;Neill</title><link>http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2008/06/16/should-bloggers-start-a-union/#comment-81605</link> <dc:creator>Mark O&#039;Neill</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 12:57:16 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.geeksaresexy.net/?p=2911#comment-81605</guid> <description>Hi Daniel I appreciate you coming over to respond. When I said I was against the idea of other members blogging about a company who was giving a union member a hard time, what I meant was it was overall a risky thing to do, because you can&#039;t write about a situation in which you don&#039;t have all the facts. You made it sound as if everyone would be getting together and writing lots of negative press about the other side to get back at them.  But would you give the other side a fair hearing and a chance to give their side of the story?  Would the resulting blog post be balanced and fair? To quote your own blog post : &quot;I would think twice before messing around with such large group of bloggers. Combined we could reach millions of people on a matter of days, and probably hurt the reputation of some small businesses for good.&quot; OUCH! I think your idea of a union is a great idea but I would lay off the idea of business bashing.  If I were you, I&#039;d stick to general support and advice for bloggers. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Daniel</p><p>I appreciate you coming over to respond.</p><p>When I said I was against the idea of other members blogging about a company who was giving a union member a hard time, what I meant was it was overall a risky thing to do, because you can&#039;t write about a situation in which you don&#039;t have all the facts.</p><p>You made it sound as if everyone would be getting together and writing lots of negative press about the other side to get back at them.  But would you give the other side a fair hearing and a chance to give their side of the story?  Would the resulting blog post be balanced and fair?</p><p>To quote your own blog post :</p><p>&quot;I would think twice before messing around with such large group of bloggers. Combined we could reach millions of people on a matter of days, and probably hurt the reputation of some small businesses for good.&quot;</p><p>OUCH!</p><p>I think your idea of a union is a great idea but I would lay off the idea of business bashing.  If I were you, I&#039;d stick to general support and advice for bloggers.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Daniel Scocco</title><link>http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2008/06/16/should-bloggers-start-a-union/#comment-81599</link> <dc:creator>Daniel Scocco</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 12:31:40 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.geeksaresexy.net/?p=2911#comment-81599</guid> <description>Looks like many people are misunderstanding my idea. When I used the word &quot;union&quot; it was not on the strict sense of term. This is has nothing to do with getting people to pay or anything like traditional unions. Perhaps it is more a kind of association. Then you said: &quot;Scocco also suggests that a union could gang up on people who are scamming another union member by blogging about the offender, and hurting their reputation in the process. I am strongly against that one. For a start, there are the legal implications (libel), and secondly, you don&#8217;t risk damaging someone&#8217;s reputation without knowing all of the facts first and without getting both sides of the story. What Daniel is suggesting is NOT responsible journalism!&quot; Well, for one thing, as long as the bloggers just report the facts, there is no case of libel or slander. Here is the definition: &quot;In law, defamation (also called vilification, slander, and libel) is the communication of a statement that makes a false claim, expressively stated or implied to be factual, that may give an individual, business, product, group, government or nation a negative image.&quot; On my post I also said: &quot;Obviously all matters would need to be taken seriously and not lightly. Each problem would need to be evaluated by a board before actions were to be taken.&quot; There would be lawyers involved to regulate. It would not be like some blogger got a bad deal from a hosting company and we would all spring to bash that company. All said I appreciate you mentioning the issue though, we will see how this will evolve :) . </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like many people are misunderstanding my idea. When I used the word &quot;union&quot; it was not on the strict sense of term. This is has nothing to do with getting people to pay or anything like traditional unions. Perhaps it is more a kind of association.</p><p>Then you said: &quot;Scocco also suggests that a union could gang up on people who are scamming another union member by blogging about the offender, and hurting their reputation in the process. I am strongly against that one. For a start, there are the legal implications (libel), and secondly, you don&rsquo;t risk damaging someone&rsquo;s reputation without knowing all of the facts first and without getting both sides of the story. What Daniel is suggesting is NOT responsible journalism!&quot;</p><p>Well, for one thing, as long as the bloggers just report the facts, there is no case of libel or slander. Here is the definition:</p><p>&quot;In law, defamation (also called vilification, slander, and libel) is the communication of a statement that makes a false claim, expressively stated or implied to be factual, that may give an individual, business, product, group, government or nation a negative image.&quot;</p><p>On my post I also said:</p><p>&quot;Obviously all matters would need to be taken seriously and not lightly. Each problem would need to be evaluated by a board before actions were to be taken.&quot;</p><p>There would be lawyers involved to regulate. It would not be like some blogger got a bad deal from a hosting company and we would all spring to bash that company.</p><p>All said I appreciate you mentioning the issue though, we will see how this will evolve :) .</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mickey Blue Eyes</title><link>http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2008/06/16/should-bloggers-start-a-union/#comment-81584</link> <dc:creator>Mickey Blue Eyes</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 11:25:15 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.geeksaresexy.net/?p=2911#comment-81584</guid> <description>What if one chooses not to join the union?  Will the union DoS the scab blogger&#039;s hosting service?  Is the Internet, or at least the blogosphere, going to be a &quot;closed shop&quot; where if one wants to post their thoughts on a web page they have to pay union dues?  What if a blogger can&#039;t make enough ad revenue to pay their union dues?  What are we going to do when the bloggers&#039; union goes on strike?  Are they going to march around the front of their house aka their employer&#039;s business? If they wanted to create a trade organization so individuals can pool their resources to handle DRMCA issues, that&#039;s one thing.  But making the Internet a &quot;closed shop&quot; where one has to be a member of a union to be allowed to work is a different thing. As for who will run it, since unions are a collectivist socialist organization, the policy leader will be a Marxist and the Mafia will handle the finances.  Just like every other union. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What if one chooses not to join the union?  Will the union DoS the scab blogger&#039;s hosting service?  Is the Internet, or at least the blogosphere, going to be a &quot;closed shop&quot; where if one wants to post their thoughts on a web page they have to pay union dues?  What if a blogger can&#039;t make enough ad revenue to pay their union dues?  What are we going to do when the bloggers&#039; union goes on strike?  Are they going to march around the front of their house aka their employer&#039;s business?</p><p>If they wanted to create a trade organization so individuals can pool their resources to handle DRMCA issues, that&#039;s one thing.  But making the Internet a &quot;closed shop&quot; where one has to be a member of a union to be allowed to work is a different thing.</p><p>As for who will run it, since unions are a collectivist socialist organization, the policy leader will be a Marxist and the Mafia will handle the finances.  Just like every other union.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: girlsnap</title><link>http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2008/06/16/should-bloggers-start-a-union/#comment-81583</link> <dc:creator>girlsnap</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 11:24:45 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.geeksaresexy.net/?p=2911#comment-81583</guid> <description>I personally can&#039;t stand unions, and I would hope that the freedom of the Web doesn&#039;t become overly regulated by communistic-type organizations trying to control and equalize every post and click. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personally can&#039;t stand unions, and I would hope that the freedom of the Web doesn&#039;t become overly regulated by communistic-type organizations trying to control and equalize every post and click.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: otakureview</title><link>http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2008/06/16/should-bloggers-start-a-union/#comment-81580</link> <dc:creator>otakureview</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 10:57:01 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.geeksaresexy.net/?p=2911#comment-81580</guid> <description>There is no way that being a professional blogger has been around long enough to figure out a uniform way to regulate it. There are so many different types of bloggers covering thousands of different subjects, one uniform code for them all to follow to keep union benefits would be a nightmare. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no way that being a professional blogger has been around long enough to figure out a uniform way to regulate it. There are so many different types of bloggers covering thousands of different subjects, one uniform code for them all to follow to keep union benefits would be a nightmare.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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