Comments on: It’s time to get rid of email http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2008/05/14/its-time-to-get-rid-of-email/ tech, science, news and social issues for geeks Tue, 14 Feb 2012 03:56:23 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Chiphttp://www.geeksaresexy.net/2008/05/14/its-time-to-get-rid-of-email/#comment-162382 Chip Wed, 10 Jun 2009 16:24:00 +0000 http://www.geeksaresexy.net/?p=2602#comment-162382 I wish I could claim an influence, but I think they started working on it long before this post. I'm really looking forward to it, and I hope it answers all of these points. I wish I could claim an influence, but I think they started working on it long before this post.

I'm really looking forward to it, and I hope it answers all of these points.

]]> By: Chiphttp://www.geeksaresexy.net/2008/05/14/its-time-to-get-rid-of-email/#comment-266637 Chip Wed, 10 Jun 2009 16:24:00 +0000 http://www.geeksaresexy.net/?p=2602#comment-266637 I wish I could claim an influence, but I think they started working on it long before this post.I'm really looking forward to it, and I hope it answers all of these points. I wish I could claim an influence, but I think they started working on it long before this post.

I’m really looking forward to it, and I hope it answers all of these points.

]]> By: Milton Segurahttp://www.geeksaresexy.net/2008/05/14/its-time-to-get-rid-of-email/#comment-162325 Milton Segura Wed, 10 Jun 2009 05:55:00 +0000 http://www.geeksaresexy.net/?p=2602#comment-162325 It seems the guys at Google read this. Wave is almost out :) It seems the guys at Google read this. Wave is almost out :)

]]> By: Milton Segurahttp://www.geeksaresexy.net/2008/05/14/its-time-to-get-rid-of-email/#comment-266636 Milton Segura Wed, 10 Jun 2009 05:55:00 +0000 http://www.geeksaresexy.net/?p=2602#comment-266636 It seems the guys at Google read this. Wave is almost out :) It seems the guys at Google read this. Wave is almost out :)

]]> By: AlanSkyhttp://www.geeksaresexy.net/2008/05/14/its-time-to-get-rid-of-email/#comment-78555 AlanSky Sat, 07 Jun 2008 09:24:00 +0000 http://www.geeksaresexy.net/?p=2602#comment-78555 One solution might be that for professional emails, a global “by project” unique token (a la MAC/UUID style) should be generated by any company for all members of a project across companies or for internal departments with an expiration date. It would be sent in the xtra headers of an email and match a pool of accepted professional email addresses. Then if the company wants to restrict email usage, it may route all non-tokenized emails to a list of public email addresses of the company for clearing, and only properly tokenized emails could reach individuals of the company. The drawback: the more tokens to store for one email address, the more searching for allowing an email to go through. I don’t think this would require any change in the protocols. Isn't there something like that in some mail servers? One solution might be that for professional emails, a global “by project” unique token (a la MAC/UUID style) should be generated by any company for all members of a project across companies or for internal departments with an expiration date.

It would be sent in the xtra headers of an email and match a pool of accepted professional email addresses.

Then if the company wants to restrict email usage, it may route all non-tokenized emails to a list of public email addresses of the company for clearing, and only properly tokenized emails could reach individuals of the company.

The drawback: the more tokens to store for one email address, the more searching for allowing an email to go through.

I don’t think this would require any change in the protocols.

Isn't there something like that in some mail servers?

]]> By: AlanSkyhttp://www.geeksaresexy.net/2008/05/14/its-time-to-get-rid-of-email/#comment-266635 AlanSky Sat, 07 Jun 2008 09:24:00 +0000 http://www.geeksaresexy.net/?p=2602#comment-266635 One solution might be that for professional emails, a global “by project” unique token (a la MAC/UUID style) should be generated by any company for all members of a project across companies or for internal departments with an expiration date. It would be sent in the xtra headers of an email and match a pool of accepted professional email addresses.Then if the company wants to restrict email usage, it may route all non-tokenized emails to a list of public email addresses of the company for clearing, and only properly tokenized emails could reach individuals of the company.The drawback: the more tokens to store for one email address, the more searching for allowing an email to go through.I don’t think this would require any change in the protocols.Isn't there something like that in some mail servers? One solution might be that for professional emails, a global “by project” unique token (a la MAC/UUID style) should be generated by any company for all members of a project across companies or for internal departments with an expiration date.
It would be sent in the xtra headers of an email and match a pool of accepted professional email addresses.

Then if the company wants to restrict email usage, it may route all non-tokenized emails to a list of public email addresses of the company for clearing, and only properly tokenized emails could reach individuals of the company.

The drawback: the more tokens to store for one email address, the more searching for allowing an email to go through.

I don’t think this would require any change in the protocols.

Isn’t there something like that in some mail servers?

]]> By: Chiphttp://www.geeksaresexy.net/2008/05/14/its-time-to-get-rid-of-email/#comment-69783 Chip Mon, 19 May 2008 21:32:00 +0000 http://www.geeksaresexy.net/?p=2602#comment-69783 I think that a messaging system where you decided who was invited to a particular conversation (by invitation only) would be impervious to spam. The reason why we have spam is that anybody on the Internet can send you or me a message, and it costs very nearly 0 to do so. I think that a messaging system where you decided who was invited to a particular conversation (by invitation only) would be impervious to spam. The reason why we have spam is that anybody on the Internet can send you or me a message, and it costs very nearly 0 to do so.

]]> By: Chiphttp://www.geeksaresexy.net/2008/05/14/its-time-to-get-rid-of-email/#comment-266634 Chip Mon, 19 May 2008 21:32:00 +0000 http://www.geeksaresexy.net/?p=2602#comment-266634 I think that a messaging system where you decided who was invited to a particular conversation (by invitation only) would be impervious to spam. The reason why we have spam is that anybody on the Internet can send you or me a message, and it costs very nearly 0 to do so. I think that a messaging system where you decided who was invited to a particular conversation (by invitation only) would be impervious to spam. The reason why we have spam is that anybody on the Internet can send you or me a message, and it costs very nearly 0 to do so.

]]> By: Rickhttp://www.geeksaresexy.net/2008/05/14/its-time-to-get-rid-of-email/#comment-69497 Rick Sun, 18 May 2008 23:56:00 +0000 http://www.geeksaresexy.net/?p=2602#comment-69497 You mention two separate problems: secure messaging and spam. Secure messaging is available. You can use encryption and a secure email service such as "Sub Rosa" from novo-ordo.com. Spam is more difficult. The reason we have so much spam is because it can be sent en mass at someone else's expense. Most spam these days come from the armies of botnets that the spammer have set up with other people's computers. This is easy for them to do because most people use a fundamentally insecure operating system. Unless that can be changed, I do not see a solution to the spam problem. You mention two separate problems: secure messaging and spam.

Secure messaging is available. You can use encryption and a secure email service such as "Sub Rosa" from novo-ordo.com.

Spam is more difficult. The reason we have so much spam is because it can be sent en mass at someone else's expense. Most spam these days come from the armies of botnets that the spammer have set up with other people's computers. This is easy for them to do because most people use a fundamentally insecure operating system. Unless that can be changed, I do not see a solution to the spam problem.

]]> By: Rickhttp://www.geeksaresexy.net/2008/05/14/its-time-to-get-rid-of-email/#comment-266632 Rick Sun, 18 May 2008 23:56:00 +0000 http://www.geeksaresexy.net/?p=2602#comment-266632 You mention two separate problems: secure messaging and spam.Secure messaging is available. You can use encryption and a secure email service such as "Sub Rosa" from novo-ordo.com.Spam is more difficult. The reason we have so much spam is because it can be sent en mass at someone else's expense. Most spam these days come from the armies of botnets that the spammer have set up with other people's computers. This is easy for them to do because most people use a fundamentally insecure operating system. Unless that can be changed, I do not see a solution to the spam problem. You mention two separate problems: secure messaging and spam.

Secure messaging is available. You can use encryption and a secure email service such as “Sub Rosa” from novo-ordo.com.

Spam is more difficult. The reason we have so much spam is because it can be sent en mass at someone else’s expense. Most spam these days come from the armies of botnets that the spammer have set up with other people’s computers. This is easy for them to do because most people use a fundamentally insecure operating system. Unless that can be changed, I do not see a solution to the spam problem.

]]> By: Rickhttp://www.geeksaresexy.net/2008/05/14/its-time-to-get-rid-of-email/#comment-266633 Rick Sun, 18 May 2008 23:56:00 +0000 http://www.geeksaresexy.net/?p=2602#comment-266633 You mention two separate problems: secure messaging and spam.Secure messaging is available. You can use encryption and a secure email service such as "Sub Rosa" from novo-ordo.com.Spam is more difficult. The reason we have so much spam is because it can be sent en mass at someone else's expense. Most spam these days come from the armies of botnets that the spammer have set up with other people's computers. This is easy for them to do because most people use a fundamentally insecure operating system. Unless that can be changed, I do not see a solution to the spam problem. You mention two separate problems: secure messaging and spam.

Secure messaging is available. You can use encryption and a secure email service such as “Sub Rosa” from novo-ordo.com.

Spam is more difficult. The reason we have so much spam is because it can be sent en mass at someone else’s expense. Most spam these days come from the armies of botnets that the spammer have set up with other people’s computers. This is easy for them to do because most people use a fundamentally insecure operating system. Unless that can be changed, I do not see a solution to the spam problem.

]]> By: anonymous emailhttp://www.geeksaresexy.net/2008/05/14/its-time-to-get-rid-of-email/#comment-69218 anonymous email Sat, 17 May 2008 16:54:00 +0000 http://www.geeksaresexy.net/?p=2602#comment-69218 Email should be sent over SSL by default. Its a pitty that you have to "purchase" a certificate at Verisign, etc. It a f*** mafia. Spoofing is also a problem at our email services. The US Army should hunt down Spammers instead of BinLaden. They cause much more problems! Email should be sent over SSL by default. Its a pitty that you have to "purchase" a certificate at Verisign, etc. It a f*** mafia.

Spoofing is also a problem at our email services. The US Army should hunt down Spammers instead of BinLaden. They cause much more problems!

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