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		<title>By: Geek girl</title>
		<link>http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2008/05/07/could-we-be-about-to-see-a-pre-paid-iphone/#comment-162248</link>
		<dc:creator>Geek girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 14:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We already have iPhones on top-up cards on O2 in the UK. I don&#039;t understand why this is being greeted with such shock and horror every where else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We already have iPhones on top-up cards on O2 in the UK. I don&#8217;t understand why this is being greeted with such shock and horror every where else.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark O'Neill</title>
		<link>http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2008/05/07/could-we-be-about-to-see-a-pre-paid-iphone/#comment-139681</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark O'Neill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 12:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shae - I haven&#039;t heard of anyone being allowed to put a pre-paid German SIM card into an iPhone.  T-Mobile seems to be insisting on contracts for everyone because they are pushing the monthly data plans on everyone.  This is what&#039;s stopping me from getting an iPhone.

But don&#039;t take my word for it.  Go to a T-Mobile shop and ask them if a pre-paid SIM card &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; possible.  If I am wrong, please come back here and let me know.  Then I will run out and buy an iPhone! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shae &#8211; I haven&#8217;t heard of anyone being allowed to put a pre-paid German SIM card into an iPhone.  T-Mobile seems to be insisting on contracts for everyone because they are pushing the monthly data plans on everyone.  This is what&#8217;s stopping me from getting an iPhone.</p>
<p>But don&#8217;t take my word for it.  Go to a T-Mobile shop and ask them if a pre-paid SIM card <i>is</i> possible.  If I am wrong, please come back here and let me know.  Then I will run out and buy an iPhone! :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Shae</title>
		<link>http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2008/05/07/could-we-be-about-to-see-a-pre-paid-iphone/#comment-139601</link>
		<dc:creator>Shae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 06:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Guys  I have a Few questions!!

 My husband and I are stationed in Germany.. If I do get an unlocked iphone, is it possible to be able to put a sim card in it to use prepaid minutes? They are selling very very cheap here but contracts are very pricey and not alot of mins come with it. Please help me!! :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Guys  I have a Few questions!!</p>
<p> My husband and I are stationed in Germany.. If I do get an unlocked iphone, is it possible to be able to put a sim card in it to use prepaid minutes? They are selling very very cheap here but contracts are very pricey and not alot of mins come with it. Please help me!! :D</p>
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		<title>By: Mark O'Neill</title>
		<link>http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2008/05/07/could-we-be-about-to-see-a-pre-paid-iphone/#comment-67164</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark O'Neill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 12:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>T-Mobile (the iPhone provider in Germany) shops in the high street are slashing the cost of iPhones to get rid of inventory they can&#039;t move.  I was in Berlin a few months back and some T-Mobile shops up there were selling iPhone&#039;s for 99 Euros.  Obviously the cost of the contract was the same but the cost of the actual phone was slashed from 400 to 100.  When I asked the sales clerk why the sudden drop, he sighed and said that sales were dead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>T-Mobile (the iPhone provider in Germany) shops in the high street are slashing the cost of iPhones to get rid of inventory they can&#8217;t move.  I was in Berlin a few months back and some T-Mobile shops up there were selling iPhone&#8217;s for 99 Euros.  Obviously the cost of the contract was the same but the cost of the actual phone was slashed from 400 to 100.  When I asked the sales clerk why the sudden drop, he sighed and said that sales were dead.</p>
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		<title>By: pukkita</title>
		<link>http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2008/05/07/could-we-be-about-to-see-a-pre-paid-iphone/#comment-67156</link>
		<dc:creator>pukkita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 10:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;plummeted down to 100€&quot; In Germany?? Where? apple.de shows the 8Gb model at 399€ and the 16Gb one at 499€....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;plummeted down to 100€&#8221; In Germany?? Where? apple.de shows the 8Gb model at 399€ and the 16Gb one at 499€&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: GCM</title>
		<link>http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2008/05/07/could-we-be-about-to-see-a-pre-paid-iphone/#comment-67108</link>
		<dc:creator>GCM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 03:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interestingly Mark, you say that, you are not talking about poor third world countries, but big countries like Australia and New Zealand. As per statistics of number of cellphones in countries - Australia comes in at #29. New Zealand comes in at #72 ; whereas India comes in at Number 10. 
The telecom revolution in India/China have boomed like never before. I do agree that it is still a developing nation, but in one of our company&#039;s US visitor&#039;s words -- &quot;Man, you gotta go to the deserts of Rajasthan. There are villages without water, electricity, and good roads ; but my US based cell phone, with international roaming, had 4 bars signal strength&quot;. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interestingly Mark, you say that, you are not talking about poor third world countries, but big countries like Australia and New Zealand. As per statistics of number of cellphones in countries &#8211; Australia comes in at #29. New Zealand comes in at #72 ; whereas India comes in at Number 10.<br />
The telecom revolution in India/China have boomed like never before. I do agree that it is still a developing nation, but in one of our company&#8217;s US visitor&#8217;s words &#8212; &#8220;Man, you gotta go to the deserts of Rajasthan. There are villages without water, electricity, and good roads ; but my US based cell phone, with international roaming, had 4 bars signal strength&#8221;. :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Sheamus</title>
		<link>http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2008/05/07/could-we-be-about-to-see-a-pre-paid-iphone/#comment-67067</link>
		<dc:creator>Sheamus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 23:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I think a pre-pay iPhone is an eventual inevitablity, the handset will still be prohibitive because it will cost a fortune. In the UK we recently had a run where the iPhone was available at *only* £169 (about $340), but that&#039;s *only* that price with a £35/month ($70) contract, too. It sold out, as everyone knew it would.

However, the money is in the contract, which lasts (I believe), for 18 months, so that&#039;s 18 x 35 = £630 ($1260).

To bring even part of that income to the pre-pay market, they&#039;ll have to make the handset itself a real moneyspinner. That&#039;s how it works in pre-pay - you can buy very cheap &#039;top-up&#039; handsets, but they&#039;re always bottom of the range. I would estimate a pre-pay iPhone - assuming it&#039;s the actual, fully-featured model, and not specialist for that market - will be around £500 ($1000). And the pre-pay market is typically made-up of people who can&#039;t afford or get the credit for a contract phone. So it wouldn&#039;t sell to anyone apart from a few.

However, what would happen is iPhone crime would go through the roof. If you put that out there, and make it available to &#039;the people&#039;, but charge them out of the market, they&#039;ll be stealing them left, right and centre.

Happy days. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I think a pre-pay iPhone is an eventual inevitablity, the handset will still be prohibitive because it will cost a fortune. In the UK we recently had a run where the iPhone was available at *only* £169 (about $340), but that&#8217;s *only* that price with a £35/month ($70) contract, too. It sold out, as everyone knew it would.</p>
<p>However, the money is in the contract, which lasts (I believe), for 18 months, so that&#8217;s 18 x 35 = £630 ($1260).</p>
<p>To bring even part of that income to the pre-pay market, they&#8217;ll have to make the handset itself a real moneyspinner. That&#8217;s how it works in pre-pay &#8211; you can buy very cheap &#8216;top-up&#8217; handsets, but they&#8217;re always bottom of the range. I would estimate a pre-pay iPhone &#8211; assuming it&#8217;s the actual, fully-featured model, and not specialist for that market &#8211; will be around £500 ($1000). And the pre-pay market is typically made-up of people who can&#8217;t afford or get the credit for a contract phone. So it wouldn&#8217;t sell to anyone apart from a few.</p>
<p>However, what would happen is iPhone crime would go through the roof. If you put that out there, and make it available to &#8216;the people&#8217;, but charge them out of the market, they&#8217;ll be stealing them left, right and centre.</p>
<p>Happy days. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Kristie</title>
		<link>http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2008/05/07/could-we-be-about-to-see-a-pre-paid-iphone/#comment-67031</link>
		<dc:creator>Kristie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 19:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, I&#039;ve never heard New Zealand referred  to as a big country before!  :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I&#8217;ve never heard New Zealand referred  to as a big country before!  :D</p>
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		<title>By: Mrrix32</title>
		<link>http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2008/05/07/could-we-be-about-to-see-a-pre-paid-iphone/#comment-67026</link>
		<dc:creator>Mrrix32</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 19:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>iPhone... Hmm I got excited by all the hype pre-release. Then they announced the price. Excitement went down a bit. iPhone came out, felt it was a bit too over-hyped. Then I went and had a go on one. I was really disappointed. Now I don&#039;t want one any more :-/


Still, you can go into an O2 store (in the UK) and get free net access until they chuck you out :-P *They have 2 or 3 out on display for you to have a go on)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>iPhone&#8230; Hmm I got excited by all the hype pre-release. Then they announced the price. Excitement went down a bit. iPhone came out, felt it was a bit too over-hyped. Then I went and had a go on one. I was really disappointed. Now I don&#8217;t want one any more :-/</p>
<p>Still, you can go into an O2 store (in the UK) and get free net access until they chuck you out :-P *They have 2 or 3 out on display for you to have a go on)</p>
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		<title>By: jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 18:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow. that&#039;s intense. guess ebay would be better... but that depends on how bad someone would want it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow. that&#8217;s intense. guess ebay would be better&#8230; but that depends on how bad someone would want it.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcus</title>
		<link>http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2008/05/07/could-we-be-about-to-see-a-pre-paid-iphone/#comment-67007</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 17:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, okay, thanks for the info.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, okay, thanks for the info.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark O'Neill</title>
		<link>http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2008/05/07/could-we-be-about-to-see-a-pre-paid-iphone/#comment-66989</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark O'Neill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 15:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you buy a phone here in Germany, it will be locked by T-Mobile and you will have to sign a VERY expensive T-Mobile contract.  So if you take it back to Denmark, not only will you have to break the contract but you will also have to break the lock on the phone, then have to persuade a Danish provider to cover the unlocked phone (which they may not do).

Since you are not a German citizen, T-Mobile may also decline to sell you the contract since they figure you may do a runner back to Denmark...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you buy a phone here in Germany, it will be locked by T-Mobile and you will have to sign a VERY expensive T-Mobile contract.  So if you take it back to Denmark, not only will you have to break the contract but you will also have to break the lock on the phone, then have to persuade a Danish provider to cover the unlocked phone (which they may not do).</p>
<p>Since you are not a German citizen, T-Mobile may also decline to sell you the contract since they figure you may do a runner back to Denmark&#8230;</p>
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