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	<title>Comments on: Interview: Wafaa Bilal casts himself as terrorist in Virtual Jihadi</title>
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		<title>By: The Last Thing I Will Say About Boys Games (maybe) &#171; Eruditio Formidonis</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Last Thing I Will Say About Boys Games (maybe) &#171; Eruditio Formidonis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 16:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Last Thing I Will Say About Boys Games&#160;(maybe)  So this week it&#8217;s a look at &#8220;Interview: Wafaa Bilal casts himself as terrorist in Virtual Jihadi&#8221; on the &#8220;Geeks Are S... [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="KonaBody">[...] The Last Thing I Will Say About Boys Games&nbsp;(maybe)  So this week it&#8217;s a look at &#8220;Interview: Wafaa Bilal casts himself as terrorist in Virtual Jihadi&#8221; on the &#8220;Geeks Are S&#8230; [...]</div>
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		<title>By: bcl</title>
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		<dc:creator>bcl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 16:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@BelchSpeak - Just checking: is an Unreal mod of some high school with models including teachers and students a threat against the school? By extension, is a student playing a Columbine (or NIU or VTech) simulator threatening students?

I ask because with what little I can assertain about the playability of the game, it seems to be quite crude (the predicessor games would never have been played if their content were not controversial). I have not played Virtual Jihad. Can a poor execution be an explicit threat? I bring up the school simulations because there are those who want to label all game violence as evil while I think violence can serve a purpose in a work of art.

Yep, I used the "A" word. Not sure this game _is_ art; I am sure I am not the person to decide. I am an avowed libertarian: keep the government the hell out of that sort of decision. Let RPI make whatever decision they need to make (private institution worried about their reputation) but recognize that their buckling before pressure from forces against freedom of expression sets a bad precident.

The "building inspection" that closed the gallery that was displaying the game is another story. There a politician misused his power to silence speech with which he disagreed. Note that while you point at Federal law, the FBI has refused to confirm (or deny) their interest in Wafaa. It is not the place of a local building inspector (or public works director or whatever) to shut down an art exibition because he doesn't agree with the content. The Secret Service and DHS seem quite capable of evaluating the threat posed by this game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="KonaBody">@BelchSpeak - Just checking: is an Unreal mod of some high school with models including teachers and students a threat against the school? By extension, is a student playing a Columbine (or NIU or VTech) simulator threatening students?</p>
<p>I ask because with what little I can assertain about the playability of the game, it seems to be quite crude (the predicessor games would never have been played if their content were not controversial). I have not played Virtual Jihad. Can a poor execution be an explicit threat? I bring up the school simulations because there are those who want to label all game violence as evil while I think violence can serve a purpose in a work of art.</p>
<p>Yep, I used the &#8220;A&#8221; word. Not sure this game _is_ art; I am sure I am not the person to decide. I am an avowed libertarian: keep the government the hell out of that sort of decision. Let RPI make whatever decision they need to make (private institution worried about their reputation) but recognize that their buckling before pressure from forces against freedom of expression sets a bad precident.</p>
<p>The &#8220;building inspection&#8221; that closed the gallery that was displaying the game is another story. There a politician misused his power to silence speech with which he disagreed. Note that while you point at Federal law, the FBI has refused to confirm (or deny) their interest in Wafaa. It is not the place of a local building inspector (or public works director or whatever) to shut down an art exibition because he doesn&#8217;t agree with the content. The Secret Service and DHS seem quite capable of evaluating the threat posed by this game.</p></div>
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		<title>By: belchspeak?</title>
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		<dc:creator>belchspeak?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 06:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i cannot believe i just read that entire thread.  it is pretty clear from the posts, but belcher... you are an asshole. thats not a politically motivated statement, just a simple observation.  i feel sorry for you and people who are forced to deal with you in the real world.  you make me sad. i didnt plan on commenting, but felt compelled by the end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="KonaBody">i cannot believe i just read that entire thread.  it is pretty clear from the posts, but belcher&#8230; you are an asshole. thats not a politically motivated statement, just a simple observation.  i feel sorry for you and people who are forced to deal with you in the real world.  you make me sad. i didnt plan on commenting, but felt compelled by the end.</div>
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		<title>By: Virtual Jihadi &#171; Digital Journal: Performing the Problematic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Virtual Jihadi &#171; Digital Journal: Performing the Problematic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 06:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: BelchSpeak</title>
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		<dc:creator>BelchSpeak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 21:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Constitutional law Brian?  Like what, praytell?  Freedom of speech?  Try this law since you want to start down this road:
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/usc_sec_18_00000871----000-.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="KonaBody">Constitutional law Brian?  Like what, praytell?  Freedom of speech?  Try this law since you want to start down this road:<br />
<a href="http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/usc_sec_18_00000871----000-.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/usc_sec_18_00000871&#8212;-000-.html</a></div>
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		<title>By: Brian Boyko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Boyko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 18:50:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forget it, RPI Alum.  He's never going to get it, we're not going to appeal to his sense of reason.  He's operating on an entirely different set of moral principles based on appeals to authority rather than appeals to reason.  

And BelchSpeak?  Take a course in constitutional law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="KonaBody">Forget it, RPI Alum.  He&#8217;s never going to get it, we&#8217;re not going to appeal to his sense of reason.  He&#8217;s operating on an entirely different set of moral principles based on appeals to authority rather than appeals to reason.  </p>
<p>And BelchSpeak?  Take a course in constitutional law.</p></div>
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		<title>By: BelchSpeak</title>
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		<dc:creator>BelchSpeak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 11:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its hilarious how leftists just don't understand laws or don't think laws apply to them.  You can blame republicans, devils, gremlins, obama fever, or whatever other imaginary opponent you want for Bilal breaking laws regarding death threats against the president.

Bilal chose his own rabble-rousing lifestyle.  What you call "tragic" I call just desserts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="KonaBody">Its hilarious how leftists just don&#8217;t understand laws or don&#8217;t think laws apply to them.  You can blame republicans, devils, gremlins, obama fever, or whatever other imaginary opponent you want for Bilal breaking laws regarding death threats against the president.</p>
<p>Bilal chose his own rabble-rousing lifestyle.  What you call &#8220;tragic&#8221; I call just desserts.</p></div>
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		<title>By: RPI Alum</title>
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		<dc:creator>RPI Alum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 06:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The "product of a terrorist group" is an American-made game about killing Saddam Hussein. The "terrorists" altered the image of Saddam in the game to look like Bush. The "death threats" exist only in the fevered imaginations of College Republicans. 

Professor Bilal went to prison - in Saddam's Iraq - for cultural criticism, and its tragic that the same kind of political retribution could be instigated by chickenshit College Republicans here in the Land of the Free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="KonaBody">The &#8220;product of a terrorist group&#8221; is an American-made game about killing Saddam Hussein. The &#8220;terrorists&#8221; altered the image of Saddam in the game to look like Bush. The &#8220;death threats&#8221; exist only in the fevered imaginations of College Republicans. </p>
<p>Professor Bilal went to prison - in Saddam&#8217;s Iraq - for cultural criticism, and its tragic that the same kind of political retribution could be instigated by chickenshit College Republicans here in the Land of the Free.</p></div>
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		<title>By: PatB</title>
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		<dc:creator>PatB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 20:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, I think he's facing "censorship" for using a product of a terrorist group and making death threats against a sitting president, not for any criticism.  There's a difference.

That and his art has hardly any artistic merit.
But as far as political art against Saddam and now against Bush?  Most attention whores are 16-year-old girls, not balding middle-easterners.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="KonaBody">No, I think he&#8217;s facing &#8220;censorship&#8221; for using a product of a terrorist group and making death threats against a sitting president, not for any criticism.  There&#8217;s a difference.</p>
<p>That and his art has hardly any artistic merit.<br />
But as far as political art against Saddam and now against Bush?  Most attention whores are 16-year-old girls, not balding middle-easterners.</p></div>
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		<title>By: RPI Alum</title>
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		<dc:creator>RPI Alum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 19:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ironic that an Iraq artist who was arrested multiple times for criticizing Saddam through his artwork is now facing the same censorship for criticizing Bush. At least he hasn't been arrested (yet) but the Times Union reports that the FBI has been involved locally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="KonaBody">Ironic that an Iraq artist who was arrested multiple times for criticizing Saddam through his artwork is now facing the same censorship for criticizing Bush. At least he hasn&#8217;t been arrested (yet) but the Times Union reports that the FBI has been involved locally.</div>
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		<title>By: BelchSpeak</title>
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		<dc:creator>BelchSpeak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 02:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RPI Student, do you have a link to the story?
What a shame about his terror-supporting art getting shitcanned.  Tsk.  Tsk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="KonaBody">RPI Student, do you have a link to the story?<br />
What a shame about his terror-supporting art getting shitcanned.  Tsk.  Tsk.</div>
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		<title>By: RPI student</title>
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		<dc:creator>RPI student</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 00:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As of 5:18PM today, the remainder of Wafaa Bilal's art exhibit at RPI has been canceled, pending investigation into whether or not Bilal's art falls in line with RPI's system of morals and values.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="KonaBody">As of 5:18PM today, the remainder of Wafaa Bilal&#8217;s art exhibit at RPI has been canceled, pending investigation into whether or not Bilal&#8217;s art falls in line with RPI&#8217;s system of morals and values.</div>
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