Comments on: To Google or Not to Google – That is the Question? http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2007/09/04/to-google-or-not-to-google-that-is-the-question/ tech, science, news and social issues for geeks Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:58:33 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: Shuva http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2007/09/04/to-google-or-not-to-google-that-is-the-question/#comment-14172 Shuva Thu, 06 Sep 2007 17:20:24 +0000 http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2007/09/04/to-google-or-not-to-google-%e2%80%93-that-is-the-question/#comment-14172 The thing with the "Evil" thing is that there has to be something better. Its going to be a very difficult task to label Google as evil. Even if you do, I am sure you would most like be on the extreme side of the bell curve. Few years back hotmail or mailcity was God. They became evil when Yahoo came. Yahoo was God. Now Yahoo is evil or the bad boy because there was Google. The next big thing can only make it "evil". Evilness is a relative term here. The thing with the “Evil” thing is that there has to be something better. Its going to be a very difficult task to label Google as evil. Even if you do, I am sure you would most like be on the extreme side of the bell curve.

Few years back hotmail or mailcity was God. They became evil when Yahoo came. Yahoo was God. Now Yahoo is evil or the bad boy because there was Google. The next big thing can only make it “evil”. Evilness is a relative term here.

]]> By: Brett Williams http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2007/09/04/to-google-or-not-to-google-that-is-the-question/#comment-14158 Brett Williams Thu, 06 Sep 2007 14:39:53 +0000 http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2007/09/04/to-google-or-not-to-google-%e2%80%93-that-is-the-question/#comment-14158 I'm surprised, there has not been one overt Google supporter to post anything contrary to my perception yet. Am I to assume that the rest of the world is in agreement? I really thought that I would have gotten way more push back on this assertion of mine - anyone? I’m surprised, there has not been one overt Google supporter to post anything contrary to my perception yet.

Am I to assume that the rest of the world is in agreement?

I really thought that I would have gotten way more push back on this assertion of mine – anyone?

]]> By: Johnny http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2007/09/04/to-google-or-not-to-google-that-is-the-question/#comment-14155 Johnny Thu, 06 Sep 2007 13:48:55 +0000 http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2007/09/04/to-google-or-not-to-google-%e2%80%93-that-is-the-question/#comment-14155 You can't fight Google. Their corporate ascension cannot be stopped. Surrender now, and your servitude shall be made comfortable. You can’t fight Google. Their corporate ascension cannot be stopped.

Surrender now, and your servitude shall be made comfortable.

]]> By: calmerthanyouare http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2007/09/04/to-google-or-not-to-google-that-is-the-question/#comment-14074 calmerthanyouare Wed, 05 Sep 2007 19:15:37 +0000 http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2007/09/04/to-google-or-not-to-google-%e2%80%93-that-is-the-question/#comment-14074 Big brother in the 21st century. Google preys on information seekers and mascarades as a "service". Big brother in the 21st century. Google preys on information seekers and mascarades as a “service”.

]]> By: Brett Williams http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2007/09/04/to-google-or-not-to-google-that-is-the-question/#comment-14031 Brett Williams Wed, 05 Sep 2007 10:10:11 +0000 http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2007/09/04/to-google-or-not-to-google-%e2%80%93-that-is-the-question/#comment-14031 <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GzA9Xu_oEo" title="Google Conspiracy" rel="nofollow">3 Minute Video On The Conspiracy of Google</a> It's hosted on YouTube, which in itself is funny. I just found this while doing some morning searching before heading into work. 3 Minute Video On The Conspiracy of Google

It’s hosted on YouTube, which in itself is funny.

I just found this while doing some morning searching before heading into work.

]]> By: .:: ju ::. » To Google or Not to Google - That is the Question? | Geeks Are Sexy http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2007/09/04/to-google-or-not-to-google-that-is-the-question/#comment-14028 .:: ju ::. » To Google or Not to Google - That is the Question? | Geeks Are Sexy Wed, 05 Sep 2007 09:18:23 +0000 http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2007/09/04/to-google-or-not-to-google-%e2%80%93-that-is-the-question/#comment-14028 [...] to Google - That is the Question? | Geeks Are Sexy ju | Google | Wednesday, September 5th, 2007 For at least a year now, I’ve been thinking that Google is getting awfully bloated. With its rampa... “Who’s Afraid Of Google?” and I for one am very happy that a mainstream publication has [...] [...] to Google – That is the Question? | Geeks Are Sexy ju | Google | Wednesday, September 5th, 2007 For at least a year now, I’ve been thinking that Google is getting awfully bloated. With its rampa… “Who’s Afraid Of Google?” and I for one am very happy that a mainstream publication has [...]

]]> By: ju http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2007/09/04/to-google-or-not-to-google-that-is-the-question/#comment-14027 ju Wed, 05 Sep 2007 09:07:04 +0000 http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2007/09/04/to-google-or-not-to-google-%e2%80%93-that-is-the-question/#comment-14027 I have to acknowledge that I don't love google anymore! I think it become an evil as Microsoft. and may be that's because they become monopolists I have to acknowledge that I don’t love google anymore!

I think it become an evil as Microsoft. and may be that’s because they become monopolists

]]> By: Brett Williams http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2007/09/04/to-google-or-not-to-google-that-is-the-question/#comment-13988 Brett Williams Tue, 04 Sep 2007 23:43:36 +0000 http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2007/09/04/to-google-or-not-to-google-%e2%80%93-that-is-the-question/#comment-13988 I agree some of Google’s actions have taken have been positive, but I still think we should consider this. In my opinion: There is only really one scenario that will be played out given the current situation. Google has collected a vast amount of information on a lot of people. Your firsthand account seems to support that idea. Here is where things get tricky. It actually doesn’t matter why Google is collecting the information, but it matters that is has successfully done so and is continuing to do so. There are no borders in Google world; Google is doing something that no government has been able to do but wants to, collect information on everyone in the world. Governments want Google’s information and that want will grow exponentially with the amount of information Google collects. You could have multiple governments demanding Google release information simultaneously. Google, like its online business is subject to attacks because of its vast amount of information. I agree some of Google’s actions have taken have been positive, but I still think we should consider this.

In my opinion:

There is only really one scenario that will be played out given the current situation.

Google has collected a vast amount of information on a lot of people. Your firsthand account seems to support that idea.

Here is where things get tricky. It actually doesn’t matter why Google is collecting the information, but it matters that is has successfully done so and is continuing to do so. There are no borders in Google world; Google is doing something that no government has been able to do but wants to, collect information on everyone in the world.

Governments want Google’s information and that want will grow exponentially with the amount of information Google collects. You could have multiple governments demanding Google release information simultaneously.

Google, like its online business is subject to attacks because of its vast amount of information.

]]> By: Convictus http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2007/09/04/to-google-or-not-to-google-that-is-the-question/#comment-13978 Convictus Tue, 04 Sep 2007 22:09:21 +0000 http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2007/09/04/to-google-or-not-to-google-%e2%80%93-that-is-the-question/#comment-13978 I believe that the reason most people don't fear Google nor do they count it as Evil is that they have not betrayed our trust. When I go to the search engine, it delivers reliably. Much better than other choices in the market. I usually have to search once or twice and bam, whatever it was I wanted is presented. Sure they advertise, but a decent percent of the time, the advertizers are relevant. Accuracy and presenting me with people that want may business, that are related to what I was searching for, why fear that? Next down the broad list of things that Google has not done is sell the information that they gather from me across my travlings of their sites. Google single handely could know who I decide to transact business with (google checkout, Google Product search, Gmail) what my bills are (e-statements from my bank in gmail), who my friends are (orukut, grand central, gmail/google chat, ) what I think about the world (blogger, and Google notebook). The point is in the service sector I have banked with Google. I know that there are executives at Yahoo, Microsoft, and AOL that would literally cut themselves to have that kind of access to their customers so they could sell it. AOL tried very hard to lock you in to their ecosystem and sold the right for people to target you. Yahoo, would roll on you to please the Chinese Government, and Microsoft give Hollywood/entertainment industry a reacharound every product they release. Does Google have its flaws? Sure, they should have done more that apologize for using the Chinese database for their translation, they should be aware of XSS attacks, and do more to prevent them, even more they should be very sure that Spam and malware sites never show up in search results. Sure I hope they improve on many issues that put them at less than perfect, but I have a hard time calling a company that stood up to the Justice dept to not turn over our search records evil, when Yahoo, AOL and Microsoft complied without batting an eye. I believe that the reason most people don’t fear Google nor do they count it as Evil is that they have not betrayed our trust. When I go to the search engine, it delivers reliably. Much better than other choices in the market. I usually have to search once or twice and bam, whatever it was I wanted is presented. Sure they advertise, but a decent percent of the time, the advertizers are relevant. Accuracy and presenting me with people that want may business, that are related to what I was searching for, why fear that?

Next down the broad list of things that Google has not done is sell the information that they gather from me across my travlings of their sites. Google single handely could know who I decide to transact business with (google checkout, Google Product search, Gmail) what my bills are (e-statements from my bank in gmail), who my friends are (orukut, grand central, gmail/google chat, ) what I think about the world (blogger, and Google notebook). The point is in the service sector I have banked with Google. I know that there are executives at Yahoo, Microsoft, and AOL that would literally cut themselves to have that kind of access to their customers so they could sell it. AOL tried very hard to lock you in to their ecosystem and sold the right for people to target you. Yahoo, would roll on you to please the Chinese Government, and Microsoft give Hollywood/entertainment industry a reacharound every product they release.

Does Google have its flaws? Sure, they should have done more that apologize for using the Chinese database for their translation, they should be aware of XSS attacks, and do more to prevent them, even more they should be very sure that Spam and malware sites never show up in search results. Sure I hope they improve on many issues that put them at less than perfect, but I have a hard time calling a company that stood up to the Justice dept to not turn over our search records evil, when Yahoo, AOL and Microsoft complied without batting an eye.

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